To ask you who should pay....

[Aprilshouldhavebeenmyname]

Person A and person B out drinking after football match last Sunday.
Person A has no pocket so asks person B to put phone in their car parked next to pub.
Person B doesn't want to be seen opening car when quite drunk. Security +police close by. Could be seen as possibly going to drive....
So person B puts phone in their pocket.
Phone drops from pocket and screen now smashed to bits.
No insurance apparently - iPhone also so diy repair a no-go.
Person A says person B needs to get it fixed. Person B has no issue with this but are they a soft touch?
To you the mn jury......

Person A is a user

Person B is muff drunk

Hopefully he wakes up and dumps her.

Funny how most seem to think person A is female

Well I’ve yet to see men’s clothes without pockets.
Women’s clothes are often pocket free (or women will fill their pockets with leaflets and spread feminism)

Anyway, person A should look after her shit and get insurance.
I always buy my phone up front in cash. You tend to look after your shit more when you have had to hand over several hundred pounds for it.

I really don't understand people saying person B

Me neither, it's not as if Person B got any benefit out of the privilege of looking A's phone.

1. person A should pay for their own phone, and be responsible for their own belongings
2. putting the phone in the car would be risky and stupid anyway as someone could’ve broken into car and stolen it

"Only person A was drunk. Sick all night apparently.
Luckily they didn't sleep at my house!!" Wow! You're really selling her - not!

Or rather - she's doing a shit job of selling herself!

Snowysky - get a glass screensaver! And a robust case on the phone - honestly gotta be cheaper than even 1 repair cost! 🙄

Op you need to have a word with your son about the difference between being a kind, decent person and one that's taken for a mug!!

Buying the first round - kind decent person

Buying EVERY round - mug!

And now read B is skint - no bloody wonder if they've been paying for everything! A now needs to pay for socialising in return, though I wouldn't be at all surprised if A dumps B to seek out another mug!

"Person B is muff drunk" I'm so stealing that!

She’s skint until the end of July. Understandable that he’s paying for everything if he likes her. My dh probably would have done the same (not that he needed to). Although I never would have acted as she is and I would have suggested nights in etc.

How old is the phone? If it’s circa 2 years she may be able to get andupgrade or suffer for a few months with a cracked screen. If not, how much is a new screen. Could you advise him to tell her that yes, he will pay for the screen but that will put him out of pocket by say £130 and therefore that’s £130 less to go out and have fun?

She doesn’t sound like a great catch from here. Maybe she’s being naive. Maybe her intentions are honourable and she will pay for a few things when the money comes through.

She is very young by the sound of it. Unfortunately you’ll have to let it play out. Must be rubbish being on the sidelines.

And of course she should have had a decent case so that her phone didn’t smash. I asked if she’s a grown up upthread. I’m really cross for your ds.

When I don't have pockets or a bag (rare), I put my phone in my bra. Was she not wearing a bra?

Owner should pay. It was an accident and she should be responsible for her own things.

So do I dare tell him to man up? Tel her to woman up and pay her way?
Or silently scream at him for being a softie?

Silently scream - he is an adult so it's his issue to deal with.

I'm torn. She does sound cheeky, but he took the phone into his care...

Ultimately I think it was an accident. I wouldn't expect him to pay.

She should have invested in a glass screen cover they're cheap and often save phone screens from breaking in these situations!

But A in my opinion should pay and stop using your son!

Person A is (i) an idiot because it's stupid to go out with an iPhone and nowhere to keep it. Sheesh. (ii) an idiot because they gave an expensive uninsured item to a really drunk person - also very stupid.

Person A has demonstrated a complete inability to think about how to care for expensive items and should not be getting off scot free here.

Person B can choose to kindly give person A no more than half the cost of repair as a goodwill gesture and should then disengage from person B but seek out less idiotic people to hang out with.

I honestly can't imagine ever asking someone to pay for accidentally breaking something of mine, especially if the situation had occurred because I'd asked them to keep hold of it. No way should your son pay.

I was actually in this situation back in my younger days. We were at a beach party and one of my friends didn't have a pocket so asked me to put her phone in mine. I was really very drunk (which she knew) and ended up falling in the sea - don't ask. Honestly didn't cross my mind to offer to pay for a new phone for her, never mind that I wouldn't have been able to afford one (especially because I also drowned my phone that was only a few weeks old 🤦‍♀️).

Honestly if it was me? Go halves.

DS needs to ditch this freeloading girl, and also toughen up and learn to say 'no' to paying for everything before he meets his next gf.

Hi, you can get the glass replaced for approx. £35 - given the situation I wouldn't stress about it - all this thought and worry. I bet the two of them spent that in the pub...he can stay in for a bit.

Pay half each as they’re both as dumb as each other. A, for not thinking what they’d do with their phone when going out and B, for their stupid reason for not putting it in the car, but would then rather hold it for them

I mean really, opening a car door or even the boot of your car is going to insinuate you’re about to drive a car when drunk? Then again, why didn’t A do it instead? Ahhh, it’s too much for my brain to think any more of it 🙈

I know this isn't the point of the thread, but I'm left wondering who drove home?

And I think B should offer to pay for half. He chose to put he phone in his pocket, and therefore assumed responsibility for it. If he didn't want to do that (or put it in his car), he should have handed it back.

They walked!!

(there's no 'thumbs up emoji')

It was an accident. Person A should have brought a bag. They should pay

If person B broke it and is willing to pay for it... but person A is a bit silly for taking it with no pocket or bag etc. I would say split the cost in half between A and B. Problem solved and everyone can remain friends.

Person B should not pay and should dump Person A as she is grabby.

B should dump A. A is responsible.
If B had put in in his car and his car had been broken into then who would pay for the phone and damage?

Learning how to judge character and how to not be taken advantage of are important life lessons for your son. Ask him how he feels about the situation and how he thinks it could be better handled. Let him learn how to listen to his own heart and to trust his instincts. It might do him good to be broke for a little while just to get that message across. Yes, he's a victim here so of course you feel bad for him, but if he can learn something from what has happened then that's a valuable thing. Teach him that it's ok to say no sometimes.

Ps. sorry if that sounds hokey.