To have encouraged the woman I care for to cause some trouble?

[SlashsSnake]

Basically I am employed by a family to be a friend to their daughter who has additional needs.

The daughter wanted to lose weight and told me she'd like to join slimming world. I went along with her and she joined up. First meeting was horrendous, all this bollocks about "unlimited pasta" and free foods, making cakes with weetabix, avocado having shot loads of "syns" but a sugar loaded cereal bar being free ... I told my friend that it was a load of shit designed to con people out of money. She wanted to try it. 3 weeks in shed lost a total of 1lb as she'd been living on pasta basically.

I challenged her to follow my diet for 2 weeks (basically based on MFP and Fitbit). 2 weeks later she'd lost 7lbs. She was ecstatic. I told her we should now go back to SW and tell them how she'd lost weight. She was excited about this as it would mean helping the others.

Do last night we went to meeting, the woman cheered and whooped at the massive weight loss and during the meeting she was asked what she'd been eating.

So she recounted things like "cheese omelette for breakfast, mackerel on toast with a packet of crisps for lunch, chicken curry, rice and bahjis for dinner, a chocolate bar on the night" etc etc

Everyone went quiet and someone asked if she'd been counting her syns. My friend said "no ive been counting calories because they actually exist whereas suns don't" (autistic so can be rather blunt). The leader then went on about how sticking to plan will ensure long term weight loss and crash diets don't help. I stepped in and explained that she'd been wearing a Fitbit for two weeks and her calories, although some days high) was always less than what she was burning and scientifically, that is the only true way to lose weight. The other group members started asking questions, the leader tried to move onto someone else but they all were more interested in my friend at this point. After the group the leader asked me if I'd purposely come to the meeting to cause trouble and did I realise I was exploiting my friends learning difficulties by recruiting her to cause trouble. My friend loved every minute of it, for the first time in her life, people were asking HER for advise. Her confidence is sky high. So WIBU to encourage my friend to stir the shit a bit?

And hopefully this young woman’s mother, relative, or social worker recognises this post and they look elsewhere for a Carer

You sound like a twat. An ignorant twat, since "your" diet method is no more effective at Slimming World or any other diet. They all only work short term for the vast, vast majority of people.

stepped in and explained that she'd been wearing a Fitbit for two weeks and her calories, although some days high) was always less than what she was burning and scientifically, that is the only true way to lose weight.

scientifically that’s a load of steaming shite so you made yourself look like an idiot, at best. It’s been scientifically proven that calories in/calories out and exercise isn’t a proven way to lose and keep weight off. Best you go off and google.

Genuinely baffled by the people who think what OP has done is “brilliant”

She will have been paid roughly £10-£20 by the family

Her client will have paid roughly £7 to attend SW

And the OP has used their time and money solely to shit stir for kicks at the expense of her client and the limitations of her condition

OP aren't you clever!

Not that clever tho because I lost 11 stone on SW.

In your self-important FACE

Nope I don’t think what you did is ok. She should have the opportunity to
Try SL and then if she didn’t think it was working could have asked you or someone else if she could try something else. Then you could have suggested your strategy for weight loss but why on earth go back to SL to get her to gloat that she’d lost weight but not with their crap method? Totally uncalled for and unfair on the girl or the group.

And if you have a point to
Make up SL then make it yourself and not use the person you care for to make it for you.

To make to SW I meant

You manipulated a disabled person to glorify yourself and now want us to say well done?

Why does she need to stir the shit at a group specifically for a certain plan? Yabu and ridiculous. SW is for people who want to do SW, that’s why they are there!!! My dad has lost 9 stone on it so ‘it’s a con’ is ridiculous too. Encouraging someone to fo somewhere and ridicule and wind up the purpose of the group is idiotic.

You sound a bit horrible to be honest.

what is synergy?

"Definition of synergy - the interaction or cooperation of two or more organizations, substances, or other agents to produce a combined effect greater than."

Just means that you have to do all 3 parts of the plan for the best results.

This can't be real? No way would somebody do this? The person you are caring for made a choice and you used your influence to override her choice to something you wanted her to do, that's incredibly unethical. Don't you realise that you should have been supporting her to join in with a local community group for making friendships and improving wellbeing? Are you even qualified to be a carer?

The whole sins/syns thing has rumbled on for years and personally I don't get on with SW for that and a few other reasons HOWEVER what you did was extremely dickish both to the people at the class and your charge.

If you had done that to my daughter and I found out about it you would be out so fast your feet wouldn't hit the ground.

No surprise to see that the OP hasn't returned

Just checked the website and apparently that one is, although it's the only one. The rest all have gelatine in them.

Ah thank you that was kind of you

fair play to anybody who has lost weight and kept it off. Its nigh on impossible. But please " synergy", " consultants" blah blah,its pyramid selling.

How is it pyramid selling? WTF? Who are the people who go to classes selling to?

In a word, yes. You were very unreasonable.

largeglassofred and soddingunicorns

Yes, I am sure you are right. I re-read.. the OP did end with WIBU, and I had a moment of charitable thought. I forget that people often ask questions even though they only want to be agreed with! doh :(

YABU

the pyramid is a broad base of punters at the bottom, nest rung up the consultant, next rung up the area manager and so on. Top rung some business people with off shore bank accounts.

Seeing as OP hasn't been back I think they're a fantasist. Or loving the attention

Surely that's a business? Customers - salesperson - area manager etc.

A pyramid would be the consultants getting the customers to try to sell something/recruit and then getting those people to sell/recruit and making the money from that.

Oh they’re definitely after attention. The OP was carefully written to fit in all the common criticisms of SW that come up in every thread about the diet.