AIBU about weed smokers

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I think that they are becoming more in common. Every time I walk around outside on the summer day I smell weed.

AIBU to think that we should not tolerate weed? It's an illegal drug!!

*Couple of questions - lower than child abusers? Really? My moral compass obviously differs.
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yes, because every drug dealer sells to kids and is involved in trafficking and is a genuinely evil person. It's just like the Daily Mail says!

It is more common I think. It doesn't bother me however as I think it should be legalised. It's not more dangerous than alcohol, and stoned people are much less aggressive and alarming than drunk ones.

Interesting Tolid, weed dealers who sell weed to consenting adults are the lowest of the low?

Interesting that you seem oblivious to the harm that is done before these drugs are brought to the consenting adults. Look it up if you are really that naive. Drugs don't just affect their users. There is a massive chain of people before that.

Couple of questions - lower than child abusers? Really? My moral compass obviously differs.

Why would you bring a comparison like that. Surely it was obvious I used that phrase to show how disgusting it is. As in they sit at the bottom - WITH other scummy low life's. Not an either or. Jesus!

As for your moral compass, that's your problem. And it is a problem if you can't see past the here and now.

They just legalized weed in my state. It doesn’t change much. You are still going to be fired if you turn up to work stoned. DH’s Company has stepped up random drug testing.

Personally I hate drugs but they should be legal. If a druggy wants to OD on heroin, that’s their own issue.

I’m not anti weed but I did raise an eyebrow at a Mum smoking a joint outside nursery at 8.30am yesterday morning!

@QuizzlyBear
Thanks, i get what you mean about the hysteria, but i really would like people who it doesnt affect negatively to see that there are negatives for alot of people. But pretty much the whole of that 2nd msg i agree with.

User i think you have me & quizzly mixed up? And yes it WAS weed what they are smoking. My xp's son (20) would sit & skin up in front of me so of course i know it was weed!

Im no angel, ive tried weed, coke, ket, tablets & mdma in my younger days.

ALL drugs are drugs & ALL will have some affect on the person taking it. This includes alcohol, cigarettes, caffiene, prescription drug, & even to a certain extent food.

How many people on mumsnet got pregnant because they were drunk? 50%? more? Who has had a glass of wine in front of their kids? Alcohol at a family barbeque?

Mumsnetters make me laugh.

Police don't have the funds or the inclination to harass weed smokers anymore which means it's defacto decriminalize and so people are just being more open. It's no big deal. You won't get stoned from smelling it.
I smell it around here and there but not in clouds of smoke or anything

Ex boyfriend used to have his mates over every single night smoking the stuff. Bloody hated it, I've never even smoked a cigarette so no idea why I put up with it and a bloody waste of money. Caution didn't stop him. Hopefully he's given it up now, according to Facebook he seems to have some hobbies now! It's vile stuff, turns people into zombies.

Fully support anyone who is using it for health reasons though - a little girl I know has terrible seizures and it seems really cruel to not have the opportunity to try cannabis oil.

I bloody hate weed smokers, it's nothing like drinking alcohol, I cannot get drunk by sitting next to someone drinking but I can be affected by breathing in your weed fumes.
Our upstairs neighbours smoke it so much, often outside our DD bedroom window which then makes her room stink of weed

Cautiously, I think de-criminalisation across the board for all drugs may be the answer.
The resources spent fighting the unwillable drug war may be better spent on education, rehabilitation, and treating addicts. Same as with alcohol.
If people want to get off their head, they will find one way or another, even if they have to cook it up themselves. Look up Krokodil if you dare.
Also, as cocaine is so expensive / unobtainable in Aus, people there & in the states often turn to meth & stuff like that.
But please, these are just observations not sweeping statements, who knows what the right answer is.

@spefialsubject "Sure, it helps the species when people die after gormlessly swallowing a pill at a festival, but there's really no need to go to those lengths."

Would you tell the parents of the teenagers who died at a music festival recently that their death is a good thing? To their faces?

Exactly waves, it's such a polarising argument and neither

"It's evil because someone I know .." or "It's brilliant! never did me any harm..."

is true. It is a far bigger picture. The prohibition or legalisation of any substance has far bigger ramifications than this dualistic argument can talk about and any effects will take far longer to effect society and be far more broad ranging than this moral/anecodotal context can handle.

Personally my top hated drug is cocaine

Vanish cocaine and vanish the city of London. Vanish Cocaine and vanish the subprime mortgage crash. Vanish cocaine and vanish the Cameron/Osbourne years .

The prohibition or legalisation of any substance has far bigger ramifications than this dualistic argument can talk about and any effects will take far longer to effect society and be far more broad ranging than this moral/anecodotal context can handle.

This. It is refreshing also to have a debate with someone where we can discuss, disagree, but still respect each others POV & find common grounds in the meantime.

My city also has a very big cocaine problem. And a massive issue is the stigma attached is stopping people getting help. They dont want to be seen by friends, family or employers as a 'dirty cokehead' so they may struggle on with this silent addiction. All the while appearing normal, then yet again week by week another suicide from a beautiful person who "had everything going for them" but was secretly addicted.

taking drugs for recreational purposes is the definition of a serious no-life tragic total saddo.

Suppose you're a tee-total bastion of heath who never drinks, ingests caffeine or does anything else that chemically alters the brain then ay?

I'd say being a judgemental cocksnot on mumsent more 'no-life tragic saddo' but live and let live hey.

Interesting Kursk re employee drug testing. Personally I would support legalisation under certain conditions with a requirement for many more companies to introduce random drug testing. Not saying a fail should necessarily mean being sacked, support and monitoring might be appropriate depending on the job. But I don't want drug drivers on the road, I don't want my airplane pilot or surgeon to have the remains of last night's drugs in their system. And yes to the pp re cocaine. It REALLY pisses me off that apparently there is this cocaine culture among bankers etc. They should be making rational decisions when dealing with other people's money, not fired on coke. Making it socially unacceptable in the way drunk driving became socially unacceptable is the way to go.

It REALLY pisses me off that apparently there is this cocaine culture among bankers etc. They should be making rational decisions when dealing with other people's money, not fired on coke. Making it socially unacceptable in the way drunk driving became socially unacceptable is the way to go.
There is this culture amongst salespeople, ceo's all kinds - its endemic. But by & large, these people are the relatively untouchable elite, who dont give a fuck about social norms. It IS seen as socially unacceptable hence 'normal' people who dont have it in the day, but go home & have it on a regular basis struggle to ask for help. Google cocaine suicide and see how many in your local area there are. Will be a bright young thing, had a great job. But couldnt ask for help cause they are made to feel like scum.

I cannot get drunk by sitting next to someone drinking but I can be affected by breathing in your weed fumes

You really can't. Unless they are blowing the smoke directly into your mouth and even then not really. Look it up

I think I am pro legalisation as I don't think what is happening currently is working, however for those saying it has had no impact in the Netherlands - that is not true - isn't it becoming Europe's narco state with a lot of related criminal activity.

Otherwise I think the smell is horrendous and for those who are vulnerable to it (and you never can tell) the mental health effects are pretty catastrophic.

I have a friend whose son turned into a paranoid mess because of weed and has now dropped out of uni and barely leaves his room. The problem for me is that it’s hard to predict how it will affect people.
There are many studies showing a strong correlation between use of weed and low achievement in life in general.
There is also the idea of it as a gateway drug- I seriously doubt anyone just starts with heroin do they?
Plus how do you know what’s in it?

We had a friend who smoked so much weed it fried his brain. He completely lost the plot and went into a reverse mode. He was speaking backwards walking backwards everything backwards. He is now in mental home but hopefully one day we see him normal again. It male me sad when you hear people talk alcohol is worser.

OP

neither

"It's evil because someone I know .." or "It's brilliant! never did me any harm..."

is true. It is a far bigger picture.

I'm not a fan of weed and the whole stoner culture in general but I do not mind people smoking it and think it should be legalised and when it is I'm gonna try it!