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To say no to paying DH maintenance bill.

268 replies

ivechangedmyusername · 25/06/2018 16:23

Name changed but been here since before Mexican House thief and the small Korean lady in the Garden ..

DH has 4 dcs. (2 over 18 who now live with us/at Uni
I have 3. (2 over 18)

He paid £1500 a month in CM for 6yrs (as this covered the mortgage and was the divorce agreement. CMS was £918 so more than the minimum by quite a way. ) when ex remarried house was sold and ex retained 80% of the equity in exchange for no pension sharing. (Her share of the equity was £318k). She moved into her new (similarly wealthy , childless, ) husbands house. No mortgage. We know this because she tried (and failed) to move overseas with the dcs and part of the court process was full disclosure of their joint financial situation to prove they could afford to support the move.

My DH has been quite unwell mentally. He suffered from quite extreme stress from his job which whilst highly paid is equally highly stressful and performance based. We have evaluated our lives and decided that we would rather earn less and live longer - and have some more time for each other now the kids are older. He has taken unpaid leave from work which means he hasn't sought a new contract. He hasn't earned for 2 months whilst very unwell and has now decided to retrain in a completely different craft based field that will pay a quarter of what we he was previously earning.

Now to the AIBU . DH has emailed (the only way they can communicate even after a decade without a full scale screaming row. ) and told his ex what is happening and that CM will reduce in August to £325 per month. She has said that this is unacceptable and that his children 'still exist' and he needs to pay for them. He has told her that this is how it is going to be and that his maintenance payments should have reduced years ago when the eldest got to 18 but he didn't do that because he could afford not to. Now he needs to look after his health and this is what he can afford. CMS rate.
I have received an email from her today, the first time in a decade that she has spoken to me, telling me ;
' as you and my ex-husband have made a joint decision on this lifestyle choice, I think it only morally right that I look to you to make up the shortfall in maintenance.'. It is not my children's fault that their father is having some kind of midlife crisis and wants to go and commune with nature. He has children , they are not an optional financial obligation'. As you are supporting this plan, then it is only fair that you pay the shortfall in my children's finances in order to keep them in the lifestyle they are used to'.

For full disclosure, ex wife has not worked since eldest was born. (22yrs ago).
I have worked full time in a profession since 22 and only had a 3 month break after my first and 6 months for both subsequent babies.
My ex and I get on really well and he also pays me £500 pm in CMS for my only child now at home.
Husbands new job will not have a massive impact on our lifestyle except for the better (more time at home) .
AIBU so say no, I'm not paying what you perceive to be a shortfall and sod off and get a job. ?

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jessicasmummy04 · 25/06/2018 16:38

OMG what a CF...

I would not even reply to her and let you DH deal with the situation. How are old his children? How often do you have them?

twiglet · 25/06/2018 16:38

If that's what the CMS rate is and there is no clauses in their agreement then its a case of ignoring her and telling you hubby to do the same in regard to not sending angry emails. Just catalog all of her emails incase she tries to take it back to court for a change in the custody arrangements. Given the 2 18 Yr olds live with you it's a simple response from him to his ex to say this is the CMS rate and this is what I will be paying please do not contact my wife.
You probably find she's got used to having the equivalent of a 25k salary (as this is what she would get after tax) from him with doing sweet FA and she might actually have to rebudget.....

fuzzywuzzy · 25/06/2018 16:38

Surely with the older two being past the age of receiving CMS & living with their dad she should have expected the reduction?

I’m expecting ex to stop CMS midnight when DC reaches the cut off age (if not sooner).

AnneLovesGilbert · 25/06/2018 16:38

I'm sorry he's so unwell, the new plan sounds like a good one and I hope it helps.

As he's on unpaid leave currently so not earning at all, where does the £325 figure come from?

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 25/06/2018 16:38

Awesome example of cheeky fuckery! Outstanding!

So basically, she has sat on her arse for over 20 years while raking in the cash from her ex (your DH).

Surely if she's now moved in with her wealthy husband, the maintenance would have gone down anyway?

As long as your DH is paying for his 2 dc under 18, she hasn't got a leg to stand on. But as for suggesting you make up for shortfall, that's just crackers. Leave it for your DH to sort out and tell him to tell her not to contact you again.

Shutityoutart · 25/06/2018 16:38

Just email : ‘No’.

Short and to the point.

Bearhunter09 · 25/06/2018 16:39

Well she can go and get a job then

theluggageslegs · 25/06/2018 16:42

Ignore it, any reply will give credence to her ridiculous demand. It’s between her and your husband.

twiglet · 25/06/2018 16:42

Ps I don't think it's a case of keeping the children in a lifestyle they are accustomed to more her.......

funinthesun18 · 25/06/2018 16:42

Not your responsibility. He’s paying the cms amount and she will either have to like it or lump it. But the shortfall isn’t your problem.

ThreeIsACharm · 25/06/2018 16:43

Their children are now adults. Why is he still paying maintenance at all?
I can understand him putting a direct debit to his children's banks as "pocket money/ spending money" but i wouldnt think your partner had any financial obligations to this lady anymore.

Dobbythesockelf · 25/06/2018 16:44

Ignore the email. It's nothing to do with you. Maintenance is between her and your dh nothing to do with you. So cheeky to even try and get you to pay.

AForegoneConclusion · 25/06/2018 16:45

I don't even think he has to answer really. He has informed her of the change. If he is legally allowed to change the amount and is paying via CMS she can bitch and moan all she likes, but it won't change. About time she started doing something herself to keep their children "in the lifestyle they are used to that she is used to" as an addition to their Dad's payments.

Pinga · 25/06/2018 16:45

The cheek of her expecting you to work to pay for her kids. She needs to get a job herself to maintain the standards they are used to if she is that bothered.

I would either ignore or email back "no"

Bramble71 · 25/06/2018 16:46

YANBU at all. What a cheeky cow she is. More front than Blackpool! I would just ignore her email altogether.

sexnotgender · 25/06/2018 16:47

Are there any of his kids still under 18? Sorry I couldn’t make it out from your op.

She’s a cheeky entitled fucker and I’d totally ignore her as she will hate being ignored.

MismatchedStripySocks · 25/06/2018 16:49

I am outraged on your behalf OP! My husband’s ex wanted my salary details when the initial calculations were being done and I just told her to sod off. This was after she called me a slut!

fontofnoknowledge · 25/06/2018 16:49

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CointreauVersial · 25/06/2018 16:49

Send her the Jobs page from the local paper.

KitchenFloor · 25/06/2018 16:50

I'm surprised you even feel you need to ask the question! Are the younger 2 at private schools?

KitchenFloor · 25/06/2018 16:52

Also you have a name change fail I think. (Happened to me recently)

sexnotgender · 25/06/2018 16:52

Name change fail op?

Jimdandy · 25/06/2018 16:52

You’re totally not in the wrong. She had plenty of equity to invest or buy another property. If she wanted more money, when they split she could have started building her own career and used childcare.

Can’t expect you or your Hubby to find her life choices forever

Racecardriver · 25/06/2018 16:52

Your husband really should be paying to support his children. It is very wrong if him not to. But it's not like she is in a desoerate situation so it's hardly like you should be paying fir his shortfall.

jessicasmummy04 · 25/06/2018 16:57

some women are actually unreal. Although it makes no difference that she may have 318k in the bank and how much you DH has previously paid as that was court ordered.

However, circumstances do change and your DH has given more than enough notice that there will be a shortfall and the new amount she will receive. How is she going to cope in 4 years when she will be entitled to nothing!

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