Cultural appropriation

[Londonerlove]

AIBU to be totally annoyed by cultural appropriation.
I read this today and though wtf!

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/newsbeat-44572555

I’m not a fan of kim but if she wants her hair in braids she can have her hair in braids?

Shouldn’t this be praised rather than attacked?
Is eating pasta cultural appropriation?

Maria it’s fasinsting I am not religious myself but find them so interesting

ohmy

Very fascinating, I agree. It probably really depends on how a religion perceives itself and life in general. (Is there only one way to salvation? Only one life? Is conversion a religious duty?) And obviously also the social context a religion developed in...

London
I was imagining a version of the floor is lava but with pizza and sex. (Can only sit/lie/stand on pizza.)

Seeing as one pizza isn't that big... Well, that would probably make for athletic sex.

However, pizza in bed is apparently a thing...(it's very tame and cute, btw):

www.google.ch/amp/s/www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/advice/amp5943/pizza-sex-tip/

Strangely all this talk of pizza and sex just makes me want pizza.

Oh

I had pizza and salad for lunch

I think what’s missing here is the concept of nuance. No one is arguing that people of different cultures sharing food is appropriative. No one is saying that it’s offensive to go out for a Chinese, Italian etc...No one here is arguing that learning about someone else’s culture or religion is offensive - quite the opposite in fact. It’s vital we all educate ourselves and integrate.

The issues arise when people use a culture (of an oppressed people) flippanty or for fashion without knowing anything of that culture. People who will happily call Arabs terrorists, but then get a tattoo in Arabic.

It’s nuanced, but it really isn’t THAT hard to understand.

No one here is saying integration is a bad thing !!!

"I think it’s sad to think that just because I probably don’t know much about the origins of it would preclude me from wearing it. Quite the opposite as the lovejy lady fitting us was more then happy to fill us in"
One last try. Presumably you were invited to wear a sari to the wedding as I was as part of my niece's wedding party? Can you genuinely see no difference between that and deciding, arbitrarily to wear someone else's cultural/religious dress just because you fancy it?

I had sex for lunch

maria

Bertrand one last time no I don’t.

Strong

@Ohmydayslove definitely don't agree with the burka for reasons you have stated, and was all for the ban as in France. However from speaking and interacting with women who wear it, majority do so from personal choice and commitment, therefore believe women should decide what they wear or not wear.

I do agree that people and communities need to be interactive and integrate but without any compromise from any culture or group

strong

I would like to have that for supper ;)

So basically, what some posters on here are saying, as far as the Uk goes is "If you belong to a minority culture or religion don't think you're allowed to keep the symbols and dress of that culture or religion. Give it up. Integrate. Oh, and if the majority culture want to use/wear those symbols or dress then you have to let them cheerfully. Because integration." Right.

@maria - I didn’t really, I’m too old and miserable 🤣

Education is the way forward but without it being forced.

In the local shopping centre a pakistani brand opened 2 years ago, clothes are very much a western and eastern fusion. I see women from non pakistani culture buying clothes from there. I think the mainstream position of the shop will normalise the clothes, which I hope can remove the sense of certain clothing being unacceptable. I also appreciate that in a lot of the comprehensive students have a choice of wearing trousers, skirts or a shalwar kameez in the uniform colours.

*schools.

strong

Never too old ;)
My grandmother once told me she was planning on finding a boyfriend when she went to the nursing home. (They're apparently good for mingling...)

The men in the assisted living facility apparently aren't her thing. But her church has a very attractive priest. (He really is cute... Which disgruntled DH a little )

@maria my friends dad got caught shagging in his nursing home.....🤣🤣

leah, I rather think you have misinterpreted some of the report.

London, keep posting love, the more you post, the dafter you look. As strong has pointed out, nuance is beyond you.
ohmy I'm so sorry love, no matter how you try and justify you're racism to yourself it's still showing oh so clearly.

Why do you keep calling people "love", Gilead? It is peculiar. If it is an attempt to patronise your "opponent", please desist and concentrate on formulating decent arguments.

Gilead

The more you post the more unpleasant you sound.

It’s too hot for sex.

Bertrand I see it more as integrating and embracing rather then stealing or patronising though. No one is asking anyone to give anything up. Surely sharing of anything be that ideas,food,clothes or religious beliefs as long as is a good thing no?

animsginstiveusername yes completely sgree

I went to an friends Indian wedding and my friend decided that I needed to wear Indian outfit.

She lent me the most gorgeous outfit and although she kindly said that I looked lovely, I felt that I looked like a white twit.

Another Indian friend has brought me the most lovely swishy tops and jewellery on her trips home.

All lovely stuff, (god, and the spices!) and I treasure them. I hope no one looks at me in my Indian earrings, necklace and bangles and decides that I’m a racist arse.

@AsaProf I’m sure you looked beautiful.

"No one is asking anyone to give anything up" Yes you are. You are saying that people have to give up the dress and symbols of their identity, culture and religion. They will be rendered meaningless if anyone can wear them.

*Why do you keep calling people "love", Gilead? It is peculiar. If it is an attempt to patronise your "opponent", please desist and concentrate on formulating decent arguments.
I think you'll find I have.

I looked, er, ‘distinctive’, and contrary to popular belief, it didn’t keep me cool on a swealtering day!