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Cultural appropriation

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Londonerlove · 23/06/2018 17:32

AIBU to be totally annoyed by cultural appropriation.
I read this today and though wtf!

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/newsbeat-44572555

I’m not a fan of kim but if she wants her hair in braids she can have her hair in braids?

Shouldn’t this be praised rather than attacked?
Is eating pasta cultural appropriation?

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Londonerlove · 25/06/2018 19:25

I’ll sit back and wait for your thread

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Strongmummy · 25/06/2018 19:25

@london, I’m too busy trying to start a race war from an underground bunker. 🙄. Anyway, I thought you were not long for this world? Why are you wasting your time starting threads on mumsnet

Gilead · 25/06/2018 19:27

Don’t know what to say apart from I feel ashamed that someone believes that.
Bet it's not as disgusted as I felt with your opening post.
As I said, you clearly have no understanding and if you choose to engage try doing a little research.
Oh, and yes, the law would see it like that. It recognises racism.

Londonerlove · 25/06/2018 19:28

@strongmummy I thought you were a successful business woman 😂. Seem to have a lot of time on your hands?
Like I said I’ll sit back and wait for your thread.
Let’s see how people respond to your skewed view on human rights.

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MariaMadita · 25/06/2018 19:28

Strongmummy

I guess I was wondering whether white people wearing or doing things like that is always appropriation? Or whether there's a clear difference between appreciation? Imitation? Participation?

Londonerlove · 25/06/2018 19:29

@gilead exactly it recognises racism on both sides. I’m racist because I’m white but a black persons can’t be racist as they are black 😂😂😂😂

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Londonerlove · 25/06/2018 19:30

@maria I mentioned a while back that there seems to be a lot of confusion on appropriation and appreciation. Many seem to be getting offended by appreciation and confusing it for appropriation.

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Gilead · 25/06/2018 19:32

erm, no london. A person cannot be racist about a white person.
Gee whiz. The law also recognises that.

Londonerlove · 25/06/2018 19:34

@gilead wtf are you talking about

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Londonerlove · 25/06/2018 19:35

So if I get called a white bitch the police will ignore my complaint but if someone calls a black person a black bitch they will be arrested for racism?

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Gilead · 25/06/2018 19:37

No, if you get called a white bitch they will be charged for a different crime. That's because it's a different fucking crime.

Londonerlove · 25/06/2018 19:38

@gilead you chat sooooo much shittttttt.
I’ll be waiting for your thread guys 😂😂😂😂😂

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Londonerlove · 25/06/2018 19:40

You’d be charged for the same thing as being called a black bitch.
I cannot believe I’m having this convo in 2018.
@strongmummy & gilead are you two by any chance over 50.

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Gilead · 25/06/2018 19:41

So London how many people have been charged with such crimes over the years? You know, with reverse racism? Do tell. You're obviously extremely experienced in this area of the law as you think I'm talking shit.
I'm waiting.

Londonerlove · 25/06/2018 19:42

Watch this space!

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Strongmummy · 25/06/2018 19:53

@london, I’m 40. I’m also interested in hearing the crimes against Anglo Saxon white people stats the police keep. Are you going to post ?

Strongmummy · 25/06/2018 19:55

@maria, oh I see, sorry. In my view (and it’s just my view) if a person of a particular culture invites you to participate in that culture you should do it. In your example your relative was marrying into a culture and so was showing her respect and appreciation

Gilead · 25/06/2018 20:02

I cannot believe I’m having this convo in 2018.
Neither can I love, neither can I.

honkersbonkers · 25/06/2018 20:05

I've got a question. Have any of you that are comparing this to eating pasta, or think that cultural appropriation is a load of bollocks, actually ever spoken to a black person about this?

If you did you might feel differently.

Please expand your thinking and educate yourself by talking to other humans that look different to you to get a rounded view. It is very easy for you to dismiss all of this out of hand from your position of privilege.

Regardless of whether Kim should have worn the braids is by the by, some of you need to check yourselves and your attitudes.

I'm white but my children are mixed heritage and when these issues arise, I make sure I talk to my husband and his family to get a different point of view, because whether you realise it or not your attitudes have been formed over generations and need to be questioned, if we are ever to bring about change.

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Londonerlove · 25/06/2018 20:15

Restored my faith in humanity

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honkersbonkers · 25/06/2018 20:15

@Londonerlove

Your obviously going to ask why I asked that question. Might get slated for this but I see a huge difference in discrimination and racism between the two countries. I feel racism and discrimination is much more active in the States than in Britain.
In Britain I see no discrimination against dreads or afros? I genuinely think we praise that hairstyle. When a black wears their natural hair all they receive is praise and compliments. I’m from a diverse area so maybe that is why. Where I live is mixture of deprived backgrounds along with wealthy privileged backgrounds. Many white people are from deprived backgrounds as many black people are from privileged backgrounds.

YOU see no discrimination against dreads or afros? Do you HAVE dreads or an Afro? If you did you might feel differently.

My 9 year old always wants her hair tied up as if she wears it out she gets teased for having 'big hair'. Please, you are making yourself sound quite silly.

Okokiknow · 25/06/2018 20:18

I used to want braids and im blonde. I didnt know i wasnt 'allowed' them ffs. I have a black friend who relaxes her hair... what about that... is that 'allowed' the world has gone crazy

Londonerlove · 25/06/2018 20:21

@honkers if I’m being totally honest it may have something to do with me being from quite diverse areas of London. I grew up with so many different ethnicity groups that it was the norm for me. Sometimes I was the minority. Maybe that’s why I have a different view to others on here. Tbh I wouldn’t change it. I’d rather be accepted/accept rather than feel resentment.

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Londonerlove · 25/06/2018 20:24

Also as I said before a good friend had dreads and she was always praised and complimented. They were beautiful.

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