...to remind people about today's march against Brexit

[twofingerstoEverything]

...starting at 12 o clock from Pall Mall.

(Piccadilly, Green Park and Charing Cross station are the nearest tubes.)

Good point about the concert, bellinisurge. I expect MummyRowland would also like to ban the London Marathon, New Years Eve celebrations etc because of cost/police staffing etc.

The people did vote, to Brexit. It should be upheld, not moaning because it did not go the way of the remoaners!

Really hope you all were proud of the huge wage bill for policing this today and the fact that people were drafted in instead of being with families

I bet you are joining the brexiteers on this thread who are super proud/excited about industries leaving and fewer jobs and as a country being made poorer (their words not mine)

The people did vote, to Brexit. It should be upheld

Brexit is going ahead.

We are leaving the EU. But I am sure you would agree that in a democracy, people and politicians should be able to discuss what that looks like. Seeing as how it massively affects all of us.

The people did vote, to Brexit. It should be upheld, not moaning because it did not go the way of the remoaners

Of which no details were known.

A (legally binding, which the referendum wasn’t) vote on a final deal isn’t unreasonable and is the very essence of what democracy is

Why does everyone find a negative to hang their point of view on? A few thousand people turned out in London and Marched - and yes it might cost something in terms of policing, etc - but the fact it's possible to actually have the right to 'book' a London March is paramount to me.

I voted to Leave (bundle me up as a Brexiteer if you will) but I am very happy to support the right of the Marchers today to March.

Politicians also voted to hold a referendum with Cameron making it clear before they voted innparliembt that government would stand by the result

Voters were given a very clear question and they responded

Never should this have happened the legalities of upholding a referendum wasn’t discussed and there simply isn’t enough MP’s willing to put their career on the line and admit they shouldn’t have support a referendum with so little discussions on what could be the outcome in the first place

"Move forward and make your voice count at the next election, that is how your going to change things"

Err no, don't you get that by the time of the next election, if this lunacy goes unchecked we will already have left the EU and all the horrendous consequences will have made themselves all too clear.

It doesn't matter how small the margin was Of course it matters! The majority was a tiny proportion.

Politicians also voted to hold a referendum with Cameron making it clear before they voted innparliembt that government would stand by the result. Cameron disappeared into the sunset within 24 hours, so whatever he said was meaningless compared to the fact that Parliament specifically created legislation to say it was an advisory, non-binding referendum.

Can I just point out to PPS saying 'only 33%voted to leave' etc - if you can't be arsed to vote then you don't count - literally. People who had an opinion voted, and one side won.

Why are the leavers on here so against a vote on the final Brexit deal?

I love the hypocrisy of people who want to live In a fair world and be given the free will to vote and not be dictated too.

Brexit is happening, we voted for it and we are leaving and all these dramatics aren’t gonna stop It.

I’m not against a vote on the final deal, in fact, the more I think about it the more I want it.
But won’t it all get a bit messy & confusing? I mean, is there ever going to be a deal we all agree on?

How would the people’s vote work?

That the referendum was advisory was already in place in legislation it was not put in place for this referendum

It was made very clear to MP’s and to the public the the result is what the government would stand by

Few MP’s are willing to go against that and once Article 50 was voted for with an overwhelming majority us leaving was sealed

How would the people’s vote work

Personally, I think Parliament should have the final say. Without the Whips. A free vote.

But if there is to be a People's vote, it should be explained to people what it means. What the customs check, tariffs etc all mean.

If it's acceptable to the people, it should get a majority.
If it's not acceptable, our leaders go back and try to negotiate a better deal, having listened to the views of people.

Brexit is happening, we voted for it and we are leaving and all these dramatics aren’t gonna stop It

And what does Brexit look like?
A great British Brexit?
Where will the hard border go?
How will you ensure no delays at the ferry ports?

It's happening. But I have heard no clear answers to any of these questions. Just slogans and rhetoric from politicians who won't be affected by such things.

It was a fantastic day. Great to see so many old friends and new marchers. The column of the #RemainerNow people was impressive. Brave people to be able to stand back and look at the situation now and say 'This is NOT what I voted for'.

It was made very clear to MP’s and to the public the the result is what the government would stand by

Made clear by who and on what authority? Unless there is specific legislation, as there was in the 2011 AV referendum act that the result will be legally binding, then UK referenda are advisory only. Why should what the leader of the government at that particular time said have a binding influence on subsequent Parliaments?

Was there a specific legislation in the Indy Ref?

If not and Scotland had voted for independence I don’t think it would have gone down well at all if they were told sorry it was only advisory.

Was this raised in parliament ? No

Was it raised during the referendum? No

There was so little debate in parliament surrounding the referendum and considering UKIP had just done so well it was unbelievably foolish to think there wouldn’t be a good chance that the vote would be to leave

And why are not more MP’s challenging this becuase they know they seriously fucked up and as for the Tory rebels what fucking hypocrites apart from Kenneth Clarke who was the only Tory MP to not vote for Article 50

We are leaving I’m unhappy about that but it’s a done deal and all I can hope for is it’s a soft Brexit whatever that means anymore

Oh god, not another referendum. Why would remoaners respect the result of a second referendum if they dont respect the result of the first. Its this sort of this anti democratic sentiment that is dragging the UK down.

Oh good. Someone else who hasn’t RTFT 🙄

But “the people” did have a vote. They voted to leave Europe. Just because you are in the minority doesn’t mean you can or should overthrow democracy to get your own way!

They voted to leave Europe. Just because you are in the minority doesn’t mean you can or should overthrow democracy to get your own way!

No-one is “overthrowing democracy”. 🙄

No-one is saying overturn the result. They’re saying VOTE ON THE FINAL DEAL.

I wonder if @MNHQ could put a sticky with the definition of democracy in to save time

They voted to leave Europe

We are leaving Europe. You may have noticed they are our neighbours and we do a lot of trade with them.

People are allowed to voice their real concerns over the economic effect this will have.