To think asking EU nationals to pay £65 pounds is disgusting

[Ninmpy]

They moved here without these rules and all the money will go on is just continuing as they are.

It's just asking for money to be them! Not on at all!

@Tambien yeah

The £65 is the cost of an application for settled status, a new category created by the British Government for EU nationals resident in the UK by 31 December 2020. It is not citizenship.

I am an EU national and I am fine with this. £65 is luckily not as much as non EU have to pay. Things are changing and this is not the biggest issue IMHO. We had to pay the same amount if we wanted the residency cards up until now anyway. The big issue is that it looks like we are losing our right to vote in local elections. Really unhappy about that.
That's something people should talk about rather than the 65 quid. It seems to me like everyone is talking about the fee rather than this MAJOR right taken away.

The racists on the Brexit sites are furious that they don't have to pay more and saying stuff like: well they can fuck off them.

Urgh. Imagine being that thick.

There is currently a thread running about GP surgeries charging £35 for a simple letter.

Take this into consideration and the £65 for being allowed to stay in any country seems like a bargain. l

Surely the remainers should pay @adorablemisfit, given that they want them here? Leavers would pay their return fares home, that would make more sense?

I find it terribly funny that the people who voted leave (not all, I know) to get rid of immigrants and complaining about overpopulation have now discovered that all the immigrants can stay for £65 each (YANBU OP it’s not fair they’re bearing the brunt of someone else changing the goalposts), and probably all the U.K. ex pats will have to come home too, so their eyes will pop out of their head at the amount of people coming back! Hahaha. Fucking karma.

Between that and the NI border issue which apparently nobody considered before the referendum, it’s a right old shitshow eh?

Should be more ....

Why?

The big issue is that it looks like we are losing our right to vote in local elections. Really unhappy about that

I had no idea about that, that’s absolutely appalling!

I face all kinds of costs in the country where I live as a long-term foreign resident.

It's par for the course.

Foreign residents in the UK get a pretty good deal, all in all (NHS, free schooling....) compared to most comparable countries.

The big issue is that it looks like we are losing our right to vote in local elections. Really unhappy about that

Where have you seen that @OftenHangry ?

Is there any information about what exactly settled status is? Does it give rights to leave and return?

I think in the grand scheme of things, £65 is much better than it could have been.

I saw your peculiar theory that leaving the EU will be better for the environment GardenGeek.

Mm. I would say the thick one here is definitely not me.

Surely £65 is a drop in the ocean in order to stay in the country of your choice?

I’d quite like to move to the USA and I’d quite happily pay £65 to register

The big issue is that it looks like we are losing our right to vote in local elections. Really unhappy about that

Yep that's terrible.

I don't think a divisive attitude about this is good. It's terrible that the goalposts have changed so much for non-EU nationals and that they have to pay so much. I didn't even know about the extra fees for those on skills shortage lists. But, it's ok to say that this is bad too.

Why are EU nationals so special? Because of their race?
@nervousnails

No, because in the past 30 yrs many of us will have spent significant proportions of our childhoods and/or adult lives in the UK and as such this is more our home than our 'origin countries'. This is not so uniformly the case for non-EU as it is for EU citizens, due both to proximity to EU countries & to immigration policy since the '90s. You have to take into account the specific situation where suddenly the rug is being pulled under from people who have established lives here on the understanding that the freedom of movement across the EU would continue; this has never been the case for non-EU citizens.

Would you charge Brits to lawfully remain at home? And why not, because of their (sigh) 'race'? Because that's what the situation feels like to those of us who are integrated to the point where we are assumed by everyone to be British until informed otherwise. We invest time and money in society just like the people in our communities who happened to be born here, we are culturally British, have British accents and habitus to the exclusion of any other, but that's in the end not recognised by people like you. Because of our 'race', is it?

To be fair, I don’t think it’s fair how much non EU immigrants have to pay either. Immigrants make an enormous contribution to this country and I for one am happy to welcome anyone who wants to make a home and a life here.

If every immigrant in the U.K. downed tools for one day, just one, I think all the xenophobes and the “send em back” brigade would get a bloody shock!

Would you also "fall over yourself" to pay when you previously didn't have to

Thats not strictly true. If an EU national wants a residence card now under the current regs, they have to pay a similar fee,

@soulrider here is more info www.gov.uk/government/publications/eu-settlement-scheme-statement-of-intent

When talking about the fee, it has always been there for EEA residence documents, but now it will be mandatory (which it actually already is if you were planning on getting a citizenship).

The worse thing is the lack of representation and voice if we couldn't vote in local elections (we can't vote in general anyway). And credit score down due to not being eligible to be on electoral roll. 😑

I'm sure of course that Leavers, given the opportunity, would be happy to help shoulder these sorts of Brexit-associated costs.
I mean that would be the honourable thing to do.
Crowdfunder, anyone?

Thanks @Constance, I am about to start this game and hadn't put B/C in my massive pile of supporting paperwork.
I VERY strongly suggest that due to forward planning by ALL big companies, plans to exit started in earnest a couple of years ago and they have been desperately trying to to get some sense out of the Gov.
The press releases are politely worded ways of expressing 'so long guys'. NO business can survive 2 years of pratting about.
Residence cards for France are free I believe and the basic requirements are roughly as MrJavid outlined. They are renewed free if you take an existing card in (or apply on time) otherwise 25 Euros for a replacement. Fair enough I say (and hope it's true).
Other countries and prices may vary, see packet for details etc.

My point being you dont seem to have any reason, argument or comment as to if you think its correct/ wrong, good or bad.

What do you mean? What do I think of this? I think it could have been worse. Brexit made it necessary. Remain wouldn't have.

All I know is you think leavers are all racist and stupid.

No, I don't. Where are you getting that from?

And I did find your justification for voting Leave ridiculous - do write it again - it was very funny.

SoddingUnicorns - totally agree - the fees for non EU immigration are ridiculously high. A 5 year visa for a skilled professional can now cost over £7,000 in visa fees.

But as an immigration lawyer I get frustrated by the entire system. Having a limit on the number of visas that can be issued to skilled professionals with a job offer (arguably the one category, if you chose one, which should not be limited) makes zero sense to me.

Surely the remainers should pay @adorablemisfit, given that they want them here? Leavers would pay their return fares home, that would make more sense?

I have no idea whether you're a leaver or remainer and whether you agree with the settled status plans or not. But I'd like to point out that the UK is 'home'. My husband came here 14 years ago, married me, had children, studied, works, has built his whole life here. This is his home. The country he happened to be born in is not 'home' and has not been for some time. His home is here.

When he came, and throughout our life together, and as we have grown our family and made our plans, his right to be here was simple and straightforward and required no applications or payments or proofs, etc. He did not vote for that to change. I did not vote for that to change. Our children did not. I don't see why we should be thankful that the government are allowing people who came here legally to pay to remain legally (with reduced rights) when it wasn't their choice for anything to change.

I get that a lot of people scorn the emotional reaction to Brexit experienced and displayed by people like me, but tbh, if you had heard your husband described in the ways some leavers have spoken about EU nationals, if your husband had come home time and time again in the days since the referendum telling you of "now Poles fuck off home" 'jokes' at work, if your children had asked "if Daddy is Polish does that mean I'm not really British?", if you had to base your confidence in your family's future and security on the humanity, fairness and competence of the government insitutions responsible for Windrush and were being told you should be grateful your husband wasn't being deported... you too may feel a bit bloody upset.