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MIL has punished DS because of us

167 replies

gammonsteaks · 21/06/2018 16:29

MIL told every single person in her family not to buy my son any birthday presents because we refused to travel 400 miles to be with her on his birthday. They all obeyed her.

AIBU to give up on them all? They are all horrid people anyway.

OP posts:
mathanxiety · 21/06/2018 18:20

Your MIL is a horrible woman. Your relatives are contemptible. Clearly there is a very unhealthy family dynamic in operation.

You are well rid.

Have a nice party for DS with his friends.

mathanxiety · 21/06/2018 18:21

No matter what MIL said, relatives in a healthy family would check with the parents and not take MIL's word as Truth. This family is very screwed up.

mathanxiety · 21/06/2018 18:25

speakout Thu 21-Jun-18 17:40:21
..."why would they all obey her?"
This is what I don't understand

From www.narcissisticmother.com/narcissistic-mother-enmeshment-2 -
"When you’re a baby, you begin to form boundaries with your family members, dictated by your parents of course, but that is how you learn them. When you are old enough to communicate your boundaries to others, you do so. However, people who grew up in a family with a narcissistic parent or a narcissistic mother boundary problems develop and all those involved become emotionally less functional. Children become victims of her enmeshment and lack of proper boundaries.

She is the one who created you, why shouldn’t she get to have complete control over what you do and how you live?

From her limited point of view, she believes since she took care of you when you weren’t old enough to care for yourself, you owe it to her to never keep a secret from her or have your own space.

You are an extension of her, a product, an object, a mirror. You are a part of her and she gets to treat you as such.

This is the mentality of an enmeshed narcissistic mother.

Narcissistic mothers know how to overtly and covertly control their family, using tactics that may be unbeknownst to others. She may make you feel guilty if you are not attending to her every need. When you are always on pins and needles around her, it may cause you to grow up to be hypersensitive, especially when it comes to rejection.

To the outside world, this enmeshment may come across as intimacy or your narcissistic mother really cherishes you. But in reality, you were never allowed to develop your own identity separate from her. She was always trying to make you take on her identity, whether she was aware of it or not. She may have also tried to live vicariously through you once you were old enough for her to be jealous or want to be more like you, becoming overly involved in your social life, school, sports, etc.

If you are not careful, this enmeshment from your narcissistic mother can persist an entire lifetime. Your own boundaries may be poorly developed as an adult with inadequate self-protection against others and their manipulations. When you have a narcissistic mother, it is hard to tell where your feelings start and hers end. Her feelings take over you and these feelings can generalize into other relationships you may form in your lifetime."

PickAChew · 21/06/2018 18:26

YANBU. Sounds like the sort of person that you'd want even more than 400 miles away.

mathanxiety · 21/06/2018 18:27

More from the same link:
www.narcissisticmother.com/narcissistic-mother-enmeshment-2
"When you were young, you were taught to look through the eyes and hear through the ears of your narcissistic mother.

You were forced to make choices, either consciously or subconsciously, based on whether or not you believed she would approve of your decisions. In time, you lose yourself within the narcissistic family system of enmeshment and fuse yourself with your mother. That sense of wholeness which others get from just being themselves is not something you were allowed to know. Your wholeness came from being psychologically bonded to her.

The abusive patterns, psychologically and perhaps even physically, do not stop until you make the conscious decision to end them yourself. For as long as you allow it, your narcissistic mother will continue to go about this boundary-less relationship and keep you from experiencing your true self and true identity.

Narcissistic mothers know exactly how to keep their children close by their sides, making sure their dependence on her is strong and so they are unable to break the ties between the two of them. She rewards her kids for being like her and meeting her needs. As soon as they do something she does not approve of, such as making their own decisions or being unique, the are condemned and made to feel inadequate. She makes them earn their way back, which many desperately try to do."

So the OP has been punished for having a mind of her own, the DS has been punished, and the family are predictable fused with the MIL.

mustbetimeforacreamtea · 21/06/2018 18:33

My xMIL was just like that. She would tell her family members what to buy her children and grandchildren (without ever asking the recipient what they actually wanted) and expect her directions to be carried out. All plans for family occasions were cleared with her first unless you were prepared to risk her abuse and tantrums. At our wedding she didn't approve of the evening reception plans so she insisted on her family and friends going with her to the pub instead. People still comment many years later on how rude she was. Some family members periodically go lc with her but she will never change.

mustbetimeforacreamtea · 21/06/2018 18:35

mathanxiety that is my xMIL to a tee

Ipdipme · 21/06/2018 18:37

Wow your MIL is an utter bitch!

Taking out adult issues on a child. How pathetic of her.

And the test of the family ‘obeying’! Ate then her pet dogs?

If this was my family I’d go NC with them all for good making sure they knew why.

Disgusting behaviour.

ItLooksABitOff · 21/06/2018 18:45

YANBU

mathanxiety · 21/06/2018 18:48

Mine too, sadly, mustbetimeforacreamtea and she is also 'exMIL'.

PuddlesOfBud · 21/06/2018 18:51

Did they defintely "obey" her or were they just not planning on buying your child a present anyway? I wouldn't expect all my family to buy my kids presents on their birthdays.

Go nc with the mil for sure though.

ShamelesslyPlacemarking · 21/06/2018 18:55

With all the petrol money you'll save over the years (plus money you would have spent on presents for relatives, etc), I'm sure you can shower your DS with lots of lovely things and experiences. Sounds like a solid deal to me.

Bakingberry · 21/06/2018 18:56

This is not normal behaviour. Is this typical of her? How does your partner feel about her doing this? I'd be so upset.

DuchyDuke · 21/06/2018 19:42

Lets be real here. Your MIL’s family weren’t going to buy your son presents in the first place. This is just an excuse

socraties1234 · 21/06/2018 19:47

How old is your son ? does he know what an evil bitch his nanny is?

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 21/06/2018 19:50

Duchy how do you know that?

BoneyBackJefferson · 21/06/2018 19:58

HisBetterHalf
why would they all obey her?

Because she is abusive and they don't want to be on the end of her wraith, but they are too scared to go NC.

LovingLola · 21/06/2018 23:44

The op seems to have done a runner after her first post....

MrsClutterworth · 22/06/2018 07:07

What a nasty bitch. Honestly, I would never speak to someone again no matter who they were for doing that to my son. She sounds horrible!

Ellie56 · 22/06/2018 07:38

"The op seems to have done a runner after her first post....

Hmm...

Metoodear · 22/06/2018 07:45
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Cheeseandcrisps · 22/06/2018 07:54

Oh op! That is so mean so awful for your poor ds! That's such a nasty thing to do to anyone especially a child.

My extended family brought my dd a truckload of gifts on her first birthday but on her 2nd birthday last month she didn't even get a card but do you know what we didn't care we made dds birthday extra special and spent it with people that bother with her all year around and their cards and gifts were not missed and best of all i dont have to thank any of them!

MaryShelley1818 · 22/06/2018 07:59

YANBU
What an evil nasty thing to do to a child

zippey · 22/06/2018 08:00

Thus story is too simplistic and full of holes. Can you put some meat on it? For example how do you know they all obeyed her? Who are these people - friends of mil or direct family? Maybe she just said presents are t required because they aren’t coming down after all.

I know very often I will refreshing buying gifts if I’m not seeing the friends kid in question.

What does your husbo say about it?

MarthasGinYard · 22/06/2018 08:10

'MIL told every single person in her family not to buy my son any birthday presents'

How do you know?

Have you asked where dc present is?

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