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Trump puts kids in cages because he wants his wall. How low can he go? The authoritarian shitshow continues ...

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Gumpendorf · 19/06/2018 19:29

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ohmymimi · 28/06/2018 22:56

'Conservative provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos on Thursday insisted that he "wasn't being serious" when he recently told two reporters that he "can't wait for the vigilante squads to start gunning journalists."
thehill.com/homenews/media/394715-milo-yiannopoulos-my-call-for-shooting-journalists-was-just-a-troll?amp&__twitter_impression=true

ohmymimi · 28/06/2018 22:59

‘Capital Gazette’ Shooting
“Really Maxine?” Hannity asked on the radio, mere seconds after learning about a shooting inside an Annapolis newspaper’s offices.

www.thedailybeast.com/sean-hannity-immediately-blames-maxine-waters-for-capitol-gazette-shooting

Roussette · 28/06/2018 23:52

Scary times

Perking that piece you posted is chilling

As is the newspaper shooting ...

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Today: Shooting at The Capital Gazette newspaper in Annapolis, Maryland and multiple people shot and killed.

Two days ago: neo-Nazi and popular Republican fascist Milo Yiannopoulos called for journalists to be gunned down.

lionheart · 29/06/2018 00:58

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TheClaws · 29/06/2018 01:14

Indeed, Conservative commentators - such as Hannity - are blaming the shooting on the Left. They like to think - or they would like everyone else to believe - all violence and dissent stems from the Left. Confused

Gumpendorf · 29/06/2018 07:38

This appeared in my Twitter feed and I thought it was good advice for everyone on this thread. Especially at the end of another deeply depressing week.

https://twitter.com/CindyOtis_/status/1012488916178436096

Today seems like the right time to do a thread I've been thinking about for a while on how to handle the seemingly never ending deluge of depressing and disturbing news. My tips are based on my time as a CIA military analyst in which I dealt daily with disturbing content. (1/)

There are several risks to being overloaded with disturbing/negative content.

✔️ Complacency =becoming so used to the deluge that it all starts to seem normal.
✔️ Paralysis =that is, being so overwhelmed, you can't figure out what to do/how to move forward.

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✔️ Crisis perspective =you get trapped in the Breaking News cycle where everything seems like a potentially world ending crisis to you.
✔️ Depression/PTSD = you don't have to be on the frontline of a war have either/both. Disturbing content is absolutely a trigger.

(3/)
There are also serious physical consequences to living a negative content overloaded life. I had a colleague who didn't know he had stage 4 brain cancer because the symptoms were the same as our very stressful careers: exhaustion, random fevers, stress, and dizziness. (4/)

So, what do you do? First, I strongly urge you not to ignore the news/current events. Ignorance is one reason we have this society. It won't make the problems go away & contributes nothing to their solving. Now that that's established, here's how to make it easier to handle: (5/)

  1. TAKE ACTION. Volunteer for a food pantry, canvass for a political candidate, donate to a NGO, visit a sick friend. Seriously. Service of some kind in your community lets you be part of SOLUTIONS. You will see RESULTS when otherwise you'd feel helpless. (6/)
  1. Conversely, for those who may take tip #1 to the extreme--know that you alone can't save the world. Accept your limits. You aren't a 7/11. You can't always be open. At the end of every day when I reached my limit, I silently told myself, "I've done what I can today." (7/)

(Note: Repeating that to myself did not stop me from feeling like I could have done more most days. But it was important to tell myself anyway because I am human. We are human. It's good we feel things.) (8/)

  1. RESEARCH BEFORE PANICKING. Easier said than done, but everything will seem like crisis/earth ending if you don’t know what has/hasn't happened before. If it has happened before, it's can be hugely comforting to know how it was resolved and/or what might happen next. (9/)
  1. GET UP & MOVE. Put the phone away, turn off the TV, log out of Twitter. Go for a walk, sit outside, get some coffee, call a friend. CIA is full of ppl walking the building with a colleague/friend. There's a reason. Our brains & bodies need breaks from stressful content. (10/)
  1. SET RULES. Because of my work at CIA, I had a rule : I only read fiction at home. I had enough reality at work. In the civilian world, I set blocks of time each day where I turn everything off, no news or social media. Let yourself recharge so you can keep fighting later. (11/)
  1. AVOID DARK HOLES. (I'm sure there's a joke to be made about that.) It's easy to get sucked into the swirl of bad news. You watch a gruesome YouTube video and the next one is all queued up to play right after it. Focus on one issue at a time. Deal w/ it before moving on. (12/)
  1. YOU NEED FUN. When there is suffering, war, despair, etc. around you, it's easy to feel guilty when you have fun, feel happy, have a good meal with friends. You NEED these things. You will be better able to do good in the world if you let yourself have these things. (13/)
  1. TALK TO SOMEONE. Often, we curl inward socially when overwhelmed w/ negative content. It's a means of protection. One of the great things at CIA was that everyone else knew what you were going through. Whether it's therapy or talking to your person, talking helps. (14/)

None of this is easy. I got burned out a lot in my career & many days recently, I've felt overloaded by the barrage. I'm sure you have too. But you and I can't check out. We can't give up & we need to stay engaged, but we can't do that if we get overloaded. Keep going. (15/15)

to everyone on here. Take a break, boatyard. Despite the fact I said 'Fuck the Supreme Court' in the middle of Waitrose car park when I heard about the Muslim ban decision and 'oh no, Kennedy has retired to bemused relatives when I got a news alert, I do feel more in control.

However, those poor children are still separated from their parents and, despite the awful shooting and tsunami of other news, I'm willing the media not to move on.

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Gumpendorf · 29/06/2018 07:55

Indeed, Conservative commentators - such as Hannity - are blaming the shooting on the Left. They like to think - or they would like everyone else to believe - all violence and dissent stems from the Left.

They are gaslighting with impunity. The left still doesn't have an answer because if they do the same they are called out for incivility or worse. The advice against gaslighting for individuals is to detach yourself and not to react. That's hard to do in a political context for fear you are vacating the stage. The left needs a trusted voice but who... ??

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ohmymimi · 29/06/2018 08:04

Going with Gorsuch was reprehensible, but this is worse. Not only would that vote despoil the future wellbeing of millions of Americans, they would be helping T. appoint the justice who will, in all likelihood, stand in judgement on him over the outcome of the Mueller investigation.

@sahilkapur
Manchin, Donnelly and Heitkamp are the three Democrats who voted for Neil Gorsuch, and they all sound open to his next SCOTUS pick.

Sarah Sanders
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Tonight @POTUS met w/ Senators Grassley, Collins, Murkowski, Manchin, Donnelly, and Heitkamp to discuss the Supreme Court vacancy. @POTUS team also talked w/ more than a dozen other Senators today as part of ongoing outreach to get views and advice from both sides of the aisle.

mobile.twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1012511783054176261

ohmymimi · 29/06/2018 08:17

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NEW: The Capital Gazette shooter, Jarrod Ramos, was the subject of a Capital article in which he's described threatening and harassing a woman on Facebook.

According to the article, he had pleaded guilty in 2011 to a misdemeanor harassment charge.

mobile.twitter.com/dellcam/status/1012496364763262976

Roussette · 29/06/2018 08:25

Gump that post of yours is indeed good reading. It's a depressing time and I do worry especially when I read some of the comments below US news articles.

I have a lot of respect for Maxine Walters but I do feel her comments for a 'call for action' have inflamed the numbskull republicans, they've been waiting for a moment like this... all endorsed by 45 with veiled threats.

And Trump has to stop demonising the Press and calling tthem 'the enemy of the people' nazi style.

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A disturbing element of today's horrible shooting is that police all over the country are sending officers to newsrooms to protect journalists. They clearly believe that there is a potential for many journalists to be at risk. When did going to work become a life/death decision?

ohmymimi · 29/06/2018 08:28

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What Trump doesn’t say at campaign rallies that 3 Democrats voted to support Gorsuch and he’ll be asking for their votes to confirm the Kennedy replacement. Our story on Trump and Heitkamp: link: www.snappytv.com/tc/8341644 snappytv.com/tc/8341644

@jeffzeleny
24 hours after Trump said this in Fargo: “Heidi will vote no to any pick we make to the Supreme Court –she will be told to do so.”
@SenatorHeitkamp is invited to White House. “He’s going to say some mean things about me. That’s ok,” Heitkamp told CNN. “I’m not a grudge carrier.”

mobile.twitter.com/jeffzeleny/status/1012509145830907905

lettuceWrap · 29/06/2018 08:44

Gump, thanks for your post (7.38am), linking useful ways to cope with current events. I’ve certainly found myself adopting a few of these strategies instinctively - stepping away from the news at times, and doing something else entirely to mentally recharge (for me, gardening tasks, baking, and watching trashy no-need-to-engage-your-brain tv shows).

I think the alternative is just to disengage completely from current affairs, and stop caring (and I think a lot of people are doing that)... dangerous tho, if we all do that. I feel a responsibility NOT to disengage because I feel like we are potentially on the cusp of something pretty awful (both sides of the Atlantic) Sad

boatyardblues · 29/06/2018 08:51

Thanks for that self care thread Gump. Its important to keep the vigilance balanced with more uplifting pursuits.

Gumpendorf · 29/06/2018 09:20

The interactions between the Brexit leaders and the Trump campaign have also drawn the interest of Mueller as part of his investigation into Russia’s interference in the 2016 campaign, which is examining contacts between Trump associates and Russians.

Two people former Trump communications official Michael Caputo and another person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation told The Post that Mueller’s investigators asked about Farage’s relationship to Trump associates in witness interviews this year, including Caputo just last month.

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-the-bad-boys-of-brexit-forged-ties-with-russia-and-the-trump-campaign--and-came-under-investigators-scrutiny/2018/06/28/6e3a5e9c-7656-11e8-b4b7-308400242c2e_story.html

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PerkingFaintly · 29/06/2018 09:23

Yes, thank you, Gump. I'll be sharing that one with friends.

Gumpendorf · 29/06/2018 09:26

I think the ability to disengage from politics and stop trying to join the dots is not in my DNA, lettuce. In my early teens I was fascinated by Watergate, too. Confused

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NetofLemons · 29/06/2018 09:35

Also thanks from me.

woman11017 · 29/06/2018 09:42

Don't know if this has been posted.

@capgaznews
Yes, we’re putting out a damn paper tomorrow.

@chaseacook
I can tell you this: We are putting out a damn paper tomorrow.

More US heroes.

ohmymimi · 29/06/2018 09:50

Note to Gowdy -

Benghazi: 2.5 yrs = zero results

Mueller: 13 months: 22 people and companies charged; 75 criminal charges brought so far; 5 guilty pleas ;1 person sentenced.

Plus, some actual justice:

'Ahmed Abu Khatallah, the organizer of the deadly 2012 raid on the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, that left four Americans dead, was sentenced on Wednesday to 22 years in prison on terrorism and other charges, the Justice Department said.

U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three U.S. government personnel, Sean Smith, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty, were killed in the attack on the U.S. compound on Sept. 11, 2012.

The 46-year-old Libyan national was convicted in November by a jury in Washington, D.C., on federal terrorism charges and other offenses stemming from the terrorist attack.'

eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/06/27/benghazi-leader-deadly-raid-gets-22-years-terrorism-charge/739337002/

ohmymimi · 29/06/2018 09:54

@NBCNews

"Can you please talk to us about the dead reporters in Annapolis?"

“Do you have any words of condolence for the families, Mr. President?”

"Why are you walking away?"

Pres. Trump does not comment when asked about the deadly Maryland newsroom shooting.

(link: nbcnews.to/2lG1P6n) nbcnews.to/2lG1P6n
mobile.twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1012465124517572615

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