Trump puts kids in cages because he wants his wall. How low can he go? The authoritarian shitshow continues ...

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Paula Chertok 🗽
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“I do thank you for your leadership”—DHS @SecNielsen begins AND ends her photo-op speech w/ Trump ostensibly ending family separation policy, eating her “there is no policy” words with an icky sycophant sandwich. (“Sycophant Sandwich” also a good caption for photo…because Pence)

“Vitamins” and forced injections to make them easy to handle

They can always get out the tikki torches:
'And the power is now out in much of downtown Duluth, where President Trump is hosting a rally tonight....'
mobile.twitter.com/wpjenna/status/1009525590846836738

Is it all smoke and mirrors?

BREAKING: Homeland Security Secretary Nielsen met with Congress. Gave message the administration knows keeping families together is illegal and knows the request to overturn law will fail. But idea is this buys Congress time to change the laws. twitter.com/pdmcleod/status/1009520734140534784

Trump's executive order also wants to change the Flores settlement agreement in order to be able to hold kids longer. The 9th Circuit ruled that under the agreement the US can't hold immigrant kids longer than 20 days. twitter.com/aflores/status/1009526624168095744/photo/1

When he was elected a little part of me thought that maybe it wouldn't be as bad as I feared it would be. It is so much worse. So distressing.

There's more, Gump, a lot more, and it's horrific:

www.pri.org/stories/2018-06-20/migrant-children-coming-us-are-being-sent-shelters-histories-child-abuse

Court filings contained within Gumpendorf's link

www.documentcloud.org/documents/4525292-420-2-Exhibit-Vol-2-Exs-21-30-Pages-109-73.html

I. Have. No. Words.

And if FLATUS wants a way to really 'positively impact children', she is ideally placed to do the world a massive favour...

More here, Gump:
@cmonealmd
Found out why. He could stop the policy with a phone call... But he couldn't do indefinite detainment with one. That's why it is an executive order, so he can just have these people in camps forever. I bet people still won't be able to apply for asylum.
mobile.twitter.com/cmonealmd/status/1009477766453096448

@jaketapper
NYT: Trump Plans Executive Order to Allow Detaining Families Together Indefinitely
<a class="break-all" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/us/politics/trump-immigration-children-executive-order.html#click=t.co/a03PRbyak6" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/us/politics/trump-immigration-children-executive-order.html#click=t.co/a03PRbyak6
mobile.twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1009476809442975744

Those wal-marts were converted before Trump was in office, it is not his plan.

The gang that can't keep their story straight:

Useful:
@gsiskind
1 - OK, a few comments on the executive order and what it is doing and not doing. Fellow immigration works - feel free to comment and tell me where I am getting it wrong.
mobile.twitter.com/gsiskind/status/1009539834933858304

Jackson Proskow
@JProskowGlobal
NEW: I just spoke with the former head of US Immigration & Customs Enforcement (ICE) – He tells me that he expects hundreds of separated children will never be reunited with their parents. They will be lost in the system. Orphaned by the US Govt'.
He says that during his time at ICE there were rare cases where children could not be reunited with their parents. Separation becomes permanent. This was before Trump’s policy that has so far separated 2300+ children from their parents.
He adds there are two separate legal tracks for children and adult migrants who are detained. Adults can be deported within weeks to their home countries, children may be left in the US for years in foster care or with relatives.
"there’s very little that we in the United States can do to deter people who are fleeing this horrific violence in Central America to stop them trying to come here" John Sandweg told me.
“there’s so little that we can do that’s worse than what they are facing” Sandweg says, based on his experience at ICE.
"the federal government is not very good at keeping track of kids and parents.” he says.
"if the administration doesn’t reunify these children very quickly, which is logistically very hard to do, you’re going to have a lot of permanent separations."
"I think we’re going to see hundreds of cases where children are permanently separated from their parents, becoming wards of the United States"
One final thought from the former head of ICE: "I don’t understand why we’re doing this. From a border security perspective this adds nothing to securing our borders”
On child separation, former acting director of ICE John Sandweg said "the other thing that scares me Jackson, is I’m not seeing any signs that this was a planned policy change ... and I think that’s being reflected by these horrific detention facilities"

mobile.twitter.com/JProskowGlobal/status/1009119915348021249

More here:
@nycsouthpaw
The parts of this that purport to end family separation are kinda like the Cheshire Cat—fading to nothing when you look closely. It’s administration policy to maintain family unity, “where appropriate and consistent with law and available resources.”
mobile.twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1009524097007738881

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It just gets more horrific with each revelation, mackerella.

"I think we’re going to see hundreds of cases where children are permanently separated from their parents, becoming wards of the United States'

Who could end up in the hands of:

'private companies operating immigrant youth shelters accused of serious lapses in care, including neglect and sexual and physical abuse, a Reveal investigation has found.'

Maybe George hacked her account, kala

if you read his life story (could only get as far as childhood) he was sent to military school aged 13 because he & friend got caught with collecting knives.... he was a real bully at this school...thinks -was this source of his sociopathic behaviour ie he had a attachment issue...so he is an example of what can go wrong if you separate child from family...his dad was a pro active racist- apple&tree??

Of course not, these little lives have never been any more than a means to an end to them. Disposable on the altar of a monstrous blackmail con.

@JuliaEAinsley
Per DOJ press call and convos with HHS, DHS: No one seems to have a plan for reuniting these 2300 kids with their parents

mobile.twitter.com/JuliaEAinsley/status/1009543628035944448

When I first saw the medication story I was hoping it wasn't true, but...

I hope the media keep their focus on this. I think there's more to be revealed and it will be shocking.

WATCH: Is family separation at the border Trump's "Katrina moment"? @sarafagen2 says GOP will need "years" to recover from effects of zero-tolerance policy #MTPDaily twitter.com/MeetThePress/status/1009550077034225666/video/1

I fear that the gesture of retracting on this policy will be sold and swallowed as a win, meaning that refugees keep being turned back and treated as criminals.

Hopefully, though, the plight of these families and these children will soften many hearts regarding immigration in general, but at least those seeking refuge.

twitter.com/BravenakBlog/status/1008856238434799616
Please stop saying things like,

"This is not the America I know!" when you see Trump locking refugees in cages.

Yes it is.

Trail of Tears
Slavery
Chinese Exclusion Acts
Japanese Internment
Segregation

Welcome to the America that non-white people have known for centuries.

Hope it’s OK just to note here this thread which is discussing practical actions around this specific issue:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/3283476-Children-in-detention-centres-in-USA-stupid-question-myabe-but-is-there-anything-we-can-do?watched=1&msgid=78828202#78828202

Jesus fucking Christ. I thought this awful scandal couldn’t get more horrific. State sanctioned child abuse. Injecting caged, traumatised children with what, stuff to keep them quiet.? Shame, shame, shame on them.
I’m emailing my MP to register my utter disgust that this abuser could even potentially enter the UK.