What do you say to family/friends who are right wing?

[ChocolateRaisin09]

It gets me down. I don't feel like I can discuss with my parents, in laws etc because I get too emotional, and they get defensive, but when I hear them say things like "Trump is what we need", and some frankly racist comments, I feel so helpless. They're not going to change. But I want to challenge them. It's no excuse that they're from another generation, there ARE older people who are not racist!

I wish I could stop them reading the Daily Fail (have wondered about gifting a subscription to a different paper) and broaden their minds somehow.

I am still so bitter that my parents, my in laws and people I work closely with all voted for Brexit. How do I stop hating them all?!

Sorry, bit of a rant. Wish I could let it wash over me, but honestly I don't want to be around these people sometimes and would consider limiting my daughter's time with them.

PMSL at this thread!!!!

'My family who have different political views to me are thick....In fact everyone who voted for Brexit is thick.' 😂😂

@Chocolateraisin09

You do know people are entitled to their own views right, and they are not 'wrong' and YOU are not 'right?'

Keep the comments coming though OP. You are very entertaining.

Bet your family take the piss out of you behind your back.

actually what I would do is take them aside, tell them you love them but you don't agree on political issues, and could you have an agreement not to discuss that together?

Talk about the DC. That's what I do. That's the point of a family, not to rant at each other or create arguments.

I agree you have to pull them up on racist/nasty generalizations but it's better to avoid these topics as far as possible as changing minds is pretty hard.

Congratulate them on voting for the only viable party to run the country.

It is perfectly possible to vote Conservative and Leave without being a racist. I did/do both and am not racist, nor was immigration one of the factors for my decision to vote Leave. That doesn't mean your DP and PiL are not racist, they may be but so are people from all of the political parties.

You sound like a typical egotistical left wing know-it-all and frankly rather unpleasant to describe your own relatives as thick.

I don't discuss it with them. There is no point. They will not convince me, I will not convince them. We both hold our views sincerely. I love them but I do not love their views and do not want what for me would be a pointless quarrel.

That was aimed at the OP (obvs!)

It depends what you mean by right wing. Raving racism, sexism or homophobia I won’t sit and listen to, it’s offensive & unnecessary, and anyone in my house gets asked to leave.
On brexit, every adult was entitled to their say, lots of different reasons for voting one way or the other. They are entitled to their opinion. I might not agree with them but that’s democracy. Hating someone for placing their vote as they see fit is your problem.
Maybe try agreeing to keep off the topic if it causes so much upset.

Title of your thread should be “how do you deal with family who are racist arseholes”
I’m right wing and I don’t read the DM, voted Remain and am not a racist
Socialism is a political stance not a virtue

hard right, better?

No, not better. I think you are actually very confused about the whole subject. Racism and political affinity are not related. Correlation and causation are not the same thing. Yes, some "hard right" supporters may be racist, many aren't. The topic is clearly far more complex than you are either willing or perhaps able to comprehend.

Usually, I just say "I disagree with that" or "that's not my experience of [said group]" or "I don't think that that represents the full facts". I might explain my viewpoint if they seem open to a discussion about it after that - and, perhaps surprisingly, when the tone is like that, a lot of people are more receptive. "Challenging" people, or trying to assert your opinion in a way which implies (or makes it clear) that you think their ideas are stupid rarely wins anybody round. Nobody ever changed their mind because they were told they were an idiot for thinking the way they do.

Thank you for the intelligent responses, I will pull them up on racist comments by asking for evidence. Think I'd better leave as the DM readers are getting offended!

@FadingMemory Name change fail OP ^ ???

The daily mail readers are getting offended

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Agree that voting Conservative or being "right wing" does not mean somebody is racist or bigoted. You might disagree with their politics, but people who vote the opposite way to you are voting that way for exactly the same reasons you vote your way: a combination of self-interest and genuine belief that those policies are the way to make the country better and more productive or whatever.

Toodle pip then OP if you're leaving.

Shame really, coz I am finding you really entertaining and funny.!!!

Disbelief at people defending those racist comments. But that's the state of our world eh. Now I'm even more depressed.

Thanks for the intelligent responses

Translation....... 'the intelligent responses are the ones that agreed with MEEEEEEEEEEEEE!' 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Still here then OP? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

By your insistence of "all right wingers are racists", shall we add that all left wing voters and Guardian readers are antisemitic? Can you see the problem with that sweeping statement OP?

my DF is very anti paying tax, very into free markets 'RW', but he would do away with borders altogether in his ideal world.

Nobody is defending racism, but you seem to be spoiling for a fight - with us, with your family.

Suspect this is a wind up thread and I've been caught again!

suspect this is a wind up thread

Me too

Whenever it's in the presence of my daughter I have to say something, I really don't want her to grow up thinking immigrants are bad, and black people take drugs and steal, and people on benefits are scum, and refugees deserve to die.
Ah I'm just venting, had a long weekend of fathers day gratefulness for these wise old men

OP - this is the definition of racist not right wing. As PP have suggested you appear to be confusing the two!

When you come to accept that not everyone thinks, and has the same opinions as you, it is very liberating. You just cannot control what others think, you have to let it go. Life, and thought, isn't as black and white as you think it is. The world isn't divided into right wing and left wing, bad and good.

If they are being racist in front of your daughter just leave the room, it is what I have always done with my ILs. You will be her main influence with regard to racist issues, you can't protect her from everything all the time.

I'm pretty right wing but I don't think Trump is what anyone needs nor do I read the daily clickbait. Oh and I voted remain.