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To start another grumpy old lady. thread

131 replies

user1485342611 · 18/06/2018 10:48

I just feel like starting a grumpy thread for other people who sometimes find modern life a bit off kilter

I don't want to go to weddings abroad that cost a bloody fortune, use up loads of annual leave, and are often for a couple that have been living together for ten years and have 3 kids, a mortgage and a dog.

I want to see young and healthy people giving up their seats on public transport for elderly, or even late middle age people. You're young, you've more energy, I did it when I was your age.

Any other grumpy old lady views posters would like to share.

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OnlyFoolsnMothers · 18/06/2018 17:38

Why would I stand up for a healthy active looking 60 year old? I haven’t a disability but I’m shattered having been up with a teething baby and then doing a full working day with an hour commute either side....
Elderly, pregnant, young children, disabled or with a badge= fine I’ll move but not just for anyone older than me!

user1485342611 · 18/06/2018 17:39

I'm actually getting grumpy at having to explain, over and over, that I do not expect children with disabilities or life affecting conditions to stand up on the bus. I do think healthy children, which is the majority of children, should offer their seats to elderly (60 plus) people. It's a simple way of teaching them to consider others. If anyone else comes on and says their child cannot stand because...I will scream. I am not talking about your child, in that case.

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user1485342611 · 18/06/2018 17:40

I'm not talking about you onlyfools. I said 'young people'

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rosesandflowers1 · 18/06/2018 17:45

I'm actually getting grumpy at having to explain, over and over, that I do not expect children with disabilities or life affecting conditions to stand up on the bus.

You're on public transport. You don't know the student. You have no way of knowing whether or not the young person is disabled or ill.

As such, complaining that people don't offer you seats only perpetuates the myth that young must mean healthy. It also encourages the sort of people who'd say so, publicly, forcing a disabled or ill person to explain their condition on public transport.

You will never know if a random young person is invisibly disabled or not. So your whole complaint is pointless.

rosesandflowers1 · 18/06/2018 17:48

I have heard lots of younger yelling at retail staff bus drivers etc

Really? Confused

IME it's always an adult or elderly person. From observing DD, DS and their friends Grin and of course online, young people are more likely to use the power of social media to attack a corporation, rather than the poor people representing it.

They don't like to take it out on the staff. I think there's a lot more empathy in the younger generations.

user1485342611 · 18/06/2018 17:54

Jesus Roses, I am talking about the fact that the majority of young people sit staring at their phones instead of offering their seat to elderly people. Obviously I don't know which ones are healthy and which have hidden disabilities, but most of them will be healthy and yet most of them don't stand up.

How many more times.......

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pandamodium · 18/06/2018 17:59

The amount of young people I see hogging the easy access seats or using the wheelchair spaces for the buggy is unreal. Bollocks do they all have hidden disabilities.

rosesandflowers1 · 18/06/2018 17:59

I am talking about the fact that the majority of young people sit staring at their phones instead of offering their seat to elderly people. Obviously I don't know which ones are healthy and which have hidden disabilities, but most of them will be healthy and yet most of them don't stand up.

Ah, you don't like phones either? Grin

In all honesty unless a person is frail and tired I don't see the point. I'd rather a fit older lady who just got on the bus stood than a group of teenagers exhausted from Double PE and Dance that have had to take two buses to get home did.

It's a weird notion to offer someone a seat just because they're old. Many older people must feel insulted by it. I think I would.

ToadOfSadness · 18/06/2018 18:02

@SilverySurfer, I agree with you, as you will see if you read my other posts. People do not look where they are going, but have already mentioned instances of that so will not repeat them.

catinasplashofsunshine · 18/06/2018 18:04

user you're making us grumpy too because lots of us disagree and your illogical attitude is one of the things that makes me grumpy. Children and students have no more or less right to a seat than a healthy 60 year old. Small children are unable to reach to hold on and more at risk of being squashed on a crowded bus standing than a healthy 60 year old. A student may have worked all night at their part time job, the 60 year old might have never worked a day in their life and be on the way home from a yoga class. There's no knowing whose tireder.

Elderly is different - middle aged and young people should give up seats for the elderly, but 60 is not elderly!

HarshingMyMellow · 18/06/2018 18:08

When I'm paying for my shopping and the checkout worker doesn't even acknowledge that I'm there, just continues her mundane conversation with her colleague. I'm not asking for much, just a reciprocated "hello" would be nice!

As pp have said, the younger generation being sensitive about EVERYTHING.

Smartphones, tablets and games consoles. Hate how they turn people into isolated, rude and inconsiderate hermits.
Not to mention how much of a dangerous distraction they can be to motorists and pedestrians. I was in a taxi not long ago and the driver was scrolling through his phone, watching videos on social media WHILST driving. I took photos, told him to stop, got out and reported him to everyone I could.

Automated voices on phones.

The amount of crap TV nowadays.

SweetenersAngry

MereDintofPandiculation · 18/06/2018 18:16

It may be a weird notion to offer a seat to a person just because they're old, but those of us who spent their entire childhood and young adulthood doing just that feel that perhaps it would be nice for it to be our turn to have a seat.

I think there's a lot more empathy in the younger generations. Do you? I find there's a lack of tolerance of people who find social skills difficult - it seems to be older (say 30+) people who are more likely to be able to recognise the nice person behind the awkward delivery, whereas younger people are more likely to dismiss people as weird and therefore not to be socialised with. Or may be it's all to do with finding your place in society - it takes security in yourself to be able to ignore apparent but completely unintended rudeness.

HarshingMyMellow · 18/06/2018 18:16

Oh I have more.

The stupid tops young girls wear these days that show the 'underboob'

Clear, plastic-looking, high-heeled boots. Looks like you've got two sandwich bags on your feet.

It being too hot, like today. I can't breathe in the heat.

People acting like twats just because England are playing, yes we're all excited and patriotic but do you really have to get completely smashed just to prove how much of a supporter you are?

NotACleverName · 18/06/2018 18:17

PC'ism everywhere. Gay and Lesbian book selection at the library. No heterosexual display.

God, right. When's the Straight Pride parade, too?! /s

Queenofthedrivensnow · 18/06/2018 18:17

Op I'm with you on the dehumanising BUT in my library......I panicked when they go the automated machines but it appears to have freed up the staff for full time chatting to /helping the library users. Staff wander up to the dds and engage them really well with new books/craft activities and so on....this grumpy old lady is happy in the library

user1485342611 · 18/06/2018 18:18

Well in my view it is a nice thing if children and teenagers, who are not disabled, are taught to stand up for elderly or late middle aged people. It is what I was taught to do as a child and I think it was a good thing.

I'm not sixty plus by the way, so not talking about myself.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree Cat. I do get your viewpoint, which you've explained well and I realise that a lot of people will agree with you Smile

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user1485342611 · 18/06/2018 18:20

That sounds nice Queen.

In my library they're upstairs or tied to a desk away from the main part of the library. When I was a child librarians were really strict and scary. Then they became friendly and effective. Now in my library children run screaming around the place, teenagers lie across the seats on their iPads leaving none free for anyone else, and there is no librarian around to do anything about it.

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HateIsNotGood · 18/06/2018 18:20

I get fed up with being classified as the 'older generation that fucked us over' at the age of 55. Trust me younglings our parents could fuck us over just as well as yours has.

The good thing for the younger than us people is that life-spans have stalled and even started to drop, hardly surprising as many women who have carried the flame of equality through the maelstrom of obtaining the legislative and still to be improved cultural changes, who started working at 15/16, had children, still worked, fought the domestic battles so more dads today do more child/house stuff, dealt with the workplace misogyny head on to make it better for you - shall I carry on?

So, we'll be dying earlier coz we are knackered out - and just an extra 7 years of work before I can get a state pension.

I could only buy a house 2 years ago when I inherited from my Mum and also needed to move to do it, I'm an LP with an SN child/teen, became a first-time parent at age 39. I have often been treated as if I was 18.

So fuck off to anyone who says people my age fucked you over.

And breathe......

Lilacwine1 · 18/06/2018 18:20

You know what would be nice? To have more eateries, where you can sit down, and have your order taken and brought to you. Too many places have this serve yourself, you all shuffle along with a tray filling it up as you go along. You take your life in your hands, if you dare stop for a few seconds, to look at the food, deciding what you would like to eat.

catinasplashofsunshine · 18/06/2018 18:32

Oh that's very civilised user - let's agree to disagree, I feel less grumpy now Grin

I like children, teens and smart phones despite being a grumpy old woman -

But I hate those voice messages that "young people" insist on leaving instead of just writing a message on WhatsApp! You have to play them aloud to know what they say. I generally refuse to listen to them, I'm so annoyed by them.

DH overhead a teen boy say to his friend conpletely without irony that he wished there was a way to reply back and forward straight away as he was stressed out by the delay between hearing a voice message, replying and waiting for the response - erm - it's called a phone because you can use it to make calls, they work in real time Hmm

Some new tech trends are a huge step backwards!

drearydeardre · 18/06/2018 18:33

I was IN - until I saw the nasty comments on here. Maybe try gransnet - although they are a bit judgy too.

catinasplashofsunshine · 18/06/2018 18:37

Also why does nobody else have a landline and an alarm clock any more?

Why do people take their mobiles to bed and leave them switched on, then complain that they were out til 3am/ working a night shift and you woke them by replying to the message they sent at 11om, when you were in bed sleeping, at 9am, when you'd been at work for a 3 hours and were checking messages on your coffee break?

Guiltypleasures001 · 18/06/2018 18:57

Yesterday's grumpiness for me

I'm some what leg challenged, im a fat bird on crutches who needs new knees
And has rheumatoid arthritis.

Fathers day dinner in our local. Pre booked table well in advance for comfort factor
For me and my mum. Get our table is being used, I get told we were booked in for 8 people, I don't know 8 people. So have to sit on hard crap chairs, surrounded by people and their dogs, because for some reason they all have two each.

Dogs should have been banished to the garden, it was too busy for them

Outside when leaving there's a gaggle of geese, I counted 9. Then some kid decided to chase them off, whilst being ignored by his dad, who's on his mobile

I was at this point being strangled by my judgey sloggies

Guiltypleasures001 · 18/06/2018 18:58

Oh and new neighbours, he rocks up and spits in the rd before going indoors.

Charming 😒

YesitsJacqueline · 18/06/2018 19:02

I don't want to walk into a shop and be approached by an 11 year old sales assistant who offers to help but cannot answer any questions about the products they are selling .
Case in point the body shop yesterday. Pestered at the make up counter but when I asked her to suggest the best shade of concealer for my skin type she looked at me as if I had asked her the meaning of life !

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