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To wonder when to tell DH that enough is enough?

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Havethewishiwishtonight · 18/06/2018 10:41

My DH was always affectionate, funny and generally lovely to be around. Something changed a few months ago, he became withdrawn from me and family life in general, and I was (and still am) devastated. We've become just two people living in the same house, nothing more, nothing less.

Lots of things have been said, but if i ask him outright what the problem is, he won't say. First he said it was my attitude towards him, so i became more aware of that and changed - now everything's been fine for months. Next he said that he didn't feel appreciated by myself or the children - I told him of course he is, and we show him that in all the things we do for him and how much we love him.

Now everything has become about 'his money' and how I don't have a job. We have two young DC who have recently started school, one of whom has special needs and only attends part time. I do everything around the house, he doesn't lift a finger, as well as 95% of the childcare, even on weekends. My DS with special needs cannot be left in childcare so i am trying my hardest to find a job that is on certain days, and only within very specific hours (which is proving extremely difficult).

I find my DH very resentful of me. He resents that the children favour me, he resents that I am a sahm, even though I contribute just as much as he does to family life. He has withdrawn all affection, will not initiate sex, will not speak to me unless he has something to say. It is just devastating.

I just wonder whether when I get a job, it still won't be enough for him. Will there just be some other excuse why he can't make more effort and be my husband?

AIBU to wonder when enough is enough?

OP posts:
Applesandoranges1 · 19/06/2018 09:34

OP you sound so lovely and fully committed to family life and your relationship with your husband.

It sounds as though your husband has some very unreasonable resentment towards you in that he feels the balance of family life is out of kilter. I wonder if he had any idea of the work that you do in the house and with the kids if he would see things differently?

He has allowed his resentment to breed without talking to you about it, as Pp have said kids need time and meaningful input (which they get from you) so no wonder he doesn't have the bond with them he is looking for. He needs to work on that.

I would leave him to it for the weekend. Go and have a night away and clear your head and think about if you want to salvage a marriage where your husband has been taking you for granted!!

dundermiflin · 19/06/2018 09:35

Please, please op - don't let him marginalise what you do as a parent. You are contributing. You are doing your share.

Let him go. His behaviour is awful as are the things he's saying to you.

Havethewishiwishtonight · 19/06/2018 09:37

Apples Yes, this resentment has been building for months. I have asked him time and time again to speak to me about what was bothering him. Instead it has all built up and exploded.

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colditz · 19/06/2018 10:04

There is no OW, this is all about him and me.

There is. I know he's denying it, but there is another woman. She might not even KNOW she's the other woman, he may be looking at her from afar, but men do not just switch off and check out without someone else to go to - even in their hopes.

loobylou10 · 19/06/2018 10:28

I agree - there is someone else.

TheBlueDot · 19/06/2018 10:28

Take control of your life and end it with him.

Don’t take your energy from your DC, by expending it on trying to make yourself into a person that your DH will love. He’s quite clearly told you he doesn’t (I don’t know was a cop out as he didn’t want to admit it as he knows that’s the end).

PrincessCuntsuelaVaginaHammock · 19/06/2018 10:30

So it's ok for him to feel underappreciated because you don't acknowledge his role sufficiently, but meanwhile he can completely fail to give you any respect for yours? Sounds reasonable.

GabriellaMontez · 19/06/2018 10:30

There is someone else. The Friday evenings in the pub that he lies about. How sure are you he's in the pub?

See a lawyer.

Push for 50 50 child care. Watch him shit a brick.

Get a bank account put all benefits and any tax credits in it direct. There could be some tough months ahead.

GabriellaMontez · 19/06/2018 10:36

Can you access his phone?

If so go through emails etc

If not, since when have you not been able to access it? Does he take it everywhere with him?

Havethewishiwishtonight · 19/06/2018 10:42

I have no access to his phone or emails. Everything is password protected. He doesn't take it everywhere with him because of this reason - he knows nobody can access it.

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GabriellaMontez · 19/06/2018 11:08

Has this always been the case?

Tambien · 19/06/2018 11:19

Tbhh I’m not sure trying to go through emails etc... will help.
He might or he might not have an OW.
The reality is that he doesn’t want to be there. Or only in his terms and with you jumping through hoops like you have done in the last few months.
He might well just be ressentful and that makes people find any and every little things that is and has gone wrong before.
But what he can’t do is treat you the way he is.

I think you need to make a decision for yourself. Do you accept to be treated the way he is doing atm?
If not, then it’s time to make your own boundaries very clear and send the ball back in his camp.
Being ressentful doesn’t mean he is entitled to treat you like shit. It doesn’t entitle him to have no respect for you. He can be ressentful and still treat you decently.
And if he is so resentful that he can’t, then he has nothing to do in this relationhsip and should let you know (instead of having you hanging around with ‘I’m not sure I still love you’). And then go.
And if he can’t actually grow a set of balls, then you need to take responsibility for your own life and live by own standards. Dontbstay in a relationhsip in the hope that things will change etc... when he is clearly NOT willing to do so (and has told you so, everything is your fault, none is his)

spidersonmyceiling · 19/06/2018 11:24

please find all the financial documents, as someone said, old ones too, store with a friend and family, children's passports too, and ask around for a good solicitor and see him/her. write everything down, how it all started, why he wanted to do school run included, nasty things he says, anything, it will help you work things out, also although you'll think you will remember things, you won't exactly, nor exactly when things happened, or exactly what was said, and you will have a time stamp too when emailing it back to yourself regularly. I thought I'd remember things but didn't exactly, so was very glad that I'd done some documenting, not enough, I wished I'd done more. A legal friend told me what to do, for when I was ready, I was very grateful to him, as while I didn't want to divorce straight away I was able to take steps and to know what to do when I was ready. Our house was jointly owned, so I split the tenancy, you might be already tenants in common, so wouldn't have to do that. I made a will, leaving my half of everything to the children, and had my Mum look after the document. I wavered, because sometimes he was nice, it took him being absolutely ridiculously controlling to actually go and talk to lawyers and start the ball rolling. If I'd been sensible and documented more I'd have probably done it sooner, as I'd have seen the patterns of behaviour better and not been taken in by the occasional niceness. If there really is no other woman, you have plenty of unreasonable behaviour as grounds. But until you are ready don't tell him what you are doing. Try and put some cash away for use in emergencies, or to pay for legal help, while not all solicitors will take cash, you could open another bank account in your name, operated online to do it. If he does withdraw financial support you will need a back up.

Loveatthefiveanddime · 19/06/2018 11:59

I think the swearing in previous arguments is just an excuse. You called his bluff and said you were getting a job, and true to form he moved the goal posts yet again - to another planet.

Sworn at him in arguments years ago? And that justifies everything going on now? Really? Just ridiculous.

You are not the whipping boy.

Motoko · 19/06/2018 12:02

So, what are you going to do OP?

Carry on trying to jump through each hoop he presents, in the vain hope that things will get better?

Or take control of your life, tell him you're not willing to put up with his behaviour towards you and lack of respect, and end it?

SoftBallSophie · 19/06/2018 12:04

He couldn't tell you he loves you......there is nothings by left to fight for. I'm so sorry Thanks

Trinity66 · 19/06/2018 12:07

Take back the control and end the relationship.

This ^

Get some self worth back, no one deserves to be treated that way

Ethylred · 19/06/2018 12:23

"He was more than happy for me to be a sahm for 5 years."
Or pretending to be, and now he's telling you that he isn't happy.

My advice: get the childcare, get the job.

You will need them anyway if everybody else is right and he's
about to leave you.

Jaqen · 19/06/2018 12:29

“I don’t know if I’m in love with you.”

“I haven’t been happy for ages.”

“I feel under appreciated.”

It’s all there in The Cheating Man’s Script. Including rewriting history, to wit: dragging up past arguments.

1moreRep · 19/06/2018 12:54

everyone who says "this screams of affair" how is the right way to end a relationship?

maybe he is calling time on a relationship he no longer wants to be in? maybe he's had enough and wants to end it so you can both have happiness in the future?

i ended my relationship with the father of my children nearly 4 years ago and there was no one else- i literally resented him and had just had enough. He is an amazing man and one of my good friends but i felt like i was living a lie staying in a relationship i did not want to be in. we get on really well now and i realise we just grew apart

AlsoAppearing · 19/06/2018 13:06

I registered, just to reply to this very sad thread (so please forgive any acronym slip-ups - I'm still learning). I was in a very, very similar situation. DH was resentful, treating me very badly, and claiming to be unhappy, unfulfilled, that life was supposed to be better/more exciting/fun, that it was all my fault, etc., etc., etc. Tried Relate. Tried another counselling service. Was hopeful that things could be fixed...

Then, one afternoon, I discovered the evidence of the affair (Internet chat history!) At this point something inside me snapped (soon after I lost all the strength in my legs), and I decided it was all over. However, I kept this to myself, for entirely strategic reasons. I switched my behaviour, and embarked on a killing with kindness campaign, allowing whatever freedom/behaviour was requested/demanded. I wanted to give as much time as possible for DH to spend with OW. I explained my change in demeanour by pretending that I acknowledged DH's very tiring and stressful life and agreeing that I should have been kinder and more understanding. I won't deny that this was very difficult. But, it also had the upside that things at home were more harmonious, and I got loads more time to spend with the kids - just the three of us, with no interference.

Another unintended consequence was that DH became much less careful about concealing their comms with OW. I was careful to not even hint at thinking there was an affair. They arranged a dirty weekend. I invited a friend to stay with me and the kids, as I was worried that I'd struggle. But, I didn't. I told my friend and we had a great Friday night talking about the situation, and the future. The entire weekend was excellent, and made me realise that a happy future without DH was entirely possible. In fact, preferable.

I don't mean to sound trite. I was absolutely devastated. I loved DH, and when I saw the Internet chat with OW I very nearly collapsed. Our marriage started to slide around April. I discovered the affair in September, and spent four months killing with kindness and getting my ducks in a row.

The first thing I did was arrange meetings with four or five local solicitors. I found one I liked, and that was very helpful.

Briefly back to the affair - immediately after the dirty weekend OW dumped DH Grin Sadly I still don't know why. DH became massively depressed, taking to bed for a week, frequently bursting into tears, saying he didn't know what was wrong. Cue me, and more kindness. So much kindness. This seemed to make him cry even more. Poor soul.

The behaviours got more and more demanding over subsequent months, culminating in an absolutely huge row when he decided that our children could no longer see my family (with whom the kids had a very close, loving, relationship). This was in early January. I filed for divorce then, and told him that I'd known about OW all along. For the first time in a long time, he had no reply...

Anyway, I didn't mean to make this about me. Just wanted to let you know that you will be ok, and you will have a fabulous future. I avoided all romantic relationships for almost four years, until somebody at work asked me if I'd like to get lunch. That was 10 years ago. We're still together, and blissfully happy. Well, I know I am, anyway!

DH - not so much.

tl;dr;
I'm so sorry for your trouble. If things do go bad, get advice, and play your cards very close to your chest. It's hard, but once it's all over, you will almost certainly have a lovely life.

Flowerpotbicycle · 19/06/2018 13:09

@1morerep
I have never known a man leave a marriage without the influence of another woman.
Women and men often have different motivations

AcrossthePond55 · 19/06/2018 13:10

Please see a solicitor. Do it before you get a job. My cousin worked 1 day a week and was advised by her solicitor NOT to change her work pattern until finances and maintenance were settled in court.

Do you have access to money?

AlsoAppearing · 19/06/2018 13:17

One thing - good solicitors aren't cheap. Cheap solicitors are (rarely) good. If you have a credit card that you can use, I think (ianal) that debts incurred while married are shared!

And, this is all only relevant if he is having an affair, and you choose to divorce. And, once again, I'm so terribly sorry that you might be in this situation.

Do you have family, or a trusted friend, nearby?

OverTheHedgeHammy · 19/06/2018 13:35

Hmm, I hate to say it but I agree with the others. Whether an affair or not, he's been taking advice on how to reduce payments to you should he walk away. By doing the school run he can show that he can do 50% of the care. If it is a 50/50 split, you won't get any maintenance.