How the hell is it possible to look like this woman??

[Tangled59]

OK I qas having that Sunday sadness feeling and now I'm feeling casually pissed off and jealous because I went on FB and an ad popped up featuring this woman (Tammy Hemsomething apparently).

How is it possible to look like this?! What I mean is is this the result of just working out or what? But how can she get her body fat down so low for the waist, but not on her bum or tits?!

Disgusting how MN talk about women!

This reminds me of the thread from earlier today, where a poor young girl was brought to shreds for asking about her Mum Tum just because she also had a pretty face!

Utterly bizarre how women like to bring down other women.

standards of beauty that were set based on White features

I get where you’re coming from, and I agree that certain celebrities have culturally appropriated a lot of their look (don’t need to mention names). But the fashion before big bums and more curvaceous physiques was basically to be really thin, which is unrealistic for many (if not most) white women. I welcome different body types becoming desirable, and especially ones that are achieved through eating and training not starvation diets. However I think people should be upfront if they’ve had a bit of a helping hand surgically, or upfront about the fact that building a massive arse naturally if it’s not your natural shape is essentially a full time body building hobby (or job in this woman’s case). You ain’t gonna look like that from doing a few hip thrusts.

louise That “poor young girl” appeared to be a troll.

Sigh, Louise....

Here's a hot tip how not to have people talk about your body:

Don't constantly post semi-naked shots of yourself on social media.

Works for me, at any rate.

It can be, like in the example of Kim K I mentioned before Tangled. How else do you explain her choice of appearance, surgeries, fillers, dress sense, husband (not that she's appropriating by being married to a black man - but it does give you a clue)?

I'm not trying to be inflammatory for the sake of it, it's just true.

Nick So it was a troll posting, but what about the actual picture? Do we know the picture was of the troll or another defenceless women who might not have even posted it but was alerted to it, and had to read her legs were fat

@Grandmaswagsbag
What?

You realise this aesthetic is actually even harder to achieve than the skinny look, right? Because it involves clean eating (aka a form of dieting), targeted working out, counting macros and potentially waist training compared to skinny look where you just need to diet to a greater or lesser extent.

louise No, I completely agree with your sentiment and have been vocal on my thoughts on this thread about how disgusting women are towards other women.

Just thought I would point out that thread was obviously rubbish.

@Tangled59 yes I realise it’s very hard, hence why I said people should be upfront that it’s almost a full time job to achieve this look naturally (but don’t forget that the posing vastly exaggerates how big their bums actually are, if you look at videos that a lot of these types of Igers post of them actually doing the workouts they look a lot more in proportion). I still think that’s a healthier aspiration than people wanting to just eat very little and do no exercise though. For instance the days of women being worried that lifting weights will make them ‘bulky’ are well and truly over. I think the whole strong not skinny trend is preferable to just skinny, but I still think constant selfies and obsessing about your body is unhealthy, and most probably these people are rather vain.

IcedPurple, perhaps, but she's on a losing battle to change Womankind, as this thread demonstrates.

I just don't understand the hatred, the personal attacks, the rubbishing of her achievements, the rubbishing of her finding a way to be financially independent, even up to giving birth and straight after.

If my Teen DD's had have described another Girl in the way posters have on here, I'd have pulled them up. Explained what they were doing wrong and most importantly told them to grow the fuck up and not be so nasty. But passed 14, they wouldn't have done anyway.

IcedPurple, perhaps, but she's on a losing battle to change Womankind, as this thread demonstrates.

Well, I guess it takes more than an arse angled into a camera lens to change things.

I just don't understand the hatred, the personal attacks, the rubbishing of her achievements, the rubbishing of her finding a way to be financially independent, even up to giving birth and straight after.

Exaggerating your case means you don't actually have a case.

Nobody 'hates' this woman or is 'attacking' her. Nobody other than you cares about her to be frank. I didn't know she existed until I saw this thread. Obviously, for whatever reasons, you'e a massive fan of her, but others don't have to be. We don't have to agree that bikini shots are a form of liberation, or that spending hours in the gym (how utterly dull) to achieve a bubble bum ('natural' or not) is something to aspire to.

If my Teen DD's had have described another Girl in the way posters have on here, I'd have pulled them up. Explained what they were doing wrong and most importantly told them to grow the fuck up and not be so nasty. But passed 14, they wouldn't have done anyway.

And I'm so glad I don't have any daughters, growing up in an age where displaying your arse on Instagram is considered an 'empowering' career choice.

Social media has made virtues out of vanity, narcissism and self absorption.

Seren - exactly

The disgusting behaviour on this thread comes from women who imply that other women must have something wrong with them if they don't bow down to the superior aesthetic achieved by exaggerating your sexual characteristics with surgery. That's truly scary.

Who has implied that?

The disgusting behaviour on this thread comes from women who imply that other women must have something wrong with them if they don't bow down to the superior aesthetic achieved by exaggerating your sexual characteristics with surgery. That's truly scary.

Precisely.

This whole "Wah! Women are criticising other women! Call the police!" thing invariably means that the person saying this believes that this particular woman (and her arse) must be above criticism. They're more than happy to criticise other women when it suits them however.

Like I say, let's not pretend this is about sexism or racism. Or envy. You're allowed to be a fangirl of this Tammy person. Just as we're allowed to criticise the culture of narcissism she represents.

Icedpurple I completely agree. I'm sure these women think they're the better person because they are "defending" another woman from being "torn down" as they call it. But like you say have no problem whatsoever laying into a poster who dares to criticise someone when they think it's called for. In their eyes all women should be above criticism and have to be defended at all costs. Strangely they don't apply that logic to fellow mumsnetters.

Do you really not see the difference between critising someone’s words and critisising someone’s body?

Oops, meant criticising, obvs

So if I 'critique' a woman because she is obese, it's ok? Didn't think so. Why is it ok then to 'critique' someone because she goes to the gym? Jealousy, that's why. And people can deny that until they are blue in the face, it doesn't change the facts.

What baffles me more is she has two young children very close together and at least one c section! She trains in the gym very hard and smart. And the boobs are fake but to be honest j think they looked pretty much the same before the babies.
She is my gym motivation on legs&bum day!

...and here's dontforgetyourtowel with a nice example of what I was talking about

Gretol I never said there was something wrong with women who don't agree with this woman's aesthetic. There is however something wrong with women criticizing other women over their appearance. This woman is healthy and fit. I don't want fake boobs either so I don't agree with it. But that doesn't give me the right to say horrible things about her. Unlike what I have seen on this thread. Being fit however is generally seen as preferred over being fat, and it is just a fact that people who are snidey about other women's appearance when they are fit it is more often than not anchored in jealousy.

And this whole 'culture if narcissism she represents' - what utter drivel. You can say the same about women who state they are a 'proud mummy'. They are promoting themselves over what they have achieved (becoming a mother). What about putting all over fb photos of your graduation? Narcissism? What about bigger models? Narcissism? What about personal trainers, architects, gardeners? It's ok to be proud about what you achieved. Don't like it, don't have to follow those people. But trying to tear them down isn't on. Would you say about a bigger model how dumb she must be, how disgusting she looks, what a horrible narcissist she is? No, not unless you are a vile person. This is the same. Lay off trying to belittle another women because she doesn't look like you.