In Connecticut, two teenage boys who identify as girls have come 1st and 2nd in the girls' 100m sprint

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Reposted from Feminism Chat as more people need to see this.

Neither Miller nor Yearwood have got times that would be remotely remarkable for boys (200th and 443rd respectively) but they are smashing the girls' records out of the park as now they identify as girls, they're allowed to race them instead.

Watch the face of the girl who comes third. That's pretty much her best ever 100m race. But she didn't win.

Self identification means this kind of thing will keep on happening. If you value women's sport and think that women and girls deserve to compete on a level playing field, please sign the petition: petition.parliament.uk/petitions/214118

In terms of men just following women in ... you know this happens all the time, right? Three seconds of google will show you that. Women are vulnerable as hell when they’re in the loos

Then why will trans people being acknowledged as such make a difference?

There's lots of evidence of "this actually happening" actually as it happens.

No it wasn't perfect grammar, I may have had a large gin in the sun but you know exactly what I meant.

the answer is to reform that system, not worry about kids playing sport
I think it's possible to do both things at the same time.Even if there are no scholarships or financial rewards up for grabs females should still have the chance to compete against other females and to set their own records and not to be pushed down the field by males.

I would imagine the number of rapes committed by such women is zero though.

Oh well - as long as we have your imagination

womanmeanssomething.com/1034-2/

Sex crimes tripled after Target stores introduced self ID.

No it wasn't perfect grammar, I may have had a large gin in the sun but you know exactly what I meant.

I didn’t actually. It was drivel.

Cough what is your opinion about males competing in female sports? I may have missed it.

No, you didn’t. I didn’t express one.

Hope that helps.

Not really. Just makes you look a bit daft since that is the topic of this thread.

Cough

I've linked several things.

Just occasionally though, when a thread has over 300 replies, the topic broadens slightly.

They are asking for evidence of something that happened when the OP is evidence of that thing that has happened.

Then why will trans people being acknowledged as such make a difference?

Sigh. Because:

At the moment, there’s a social convention that men don’t go in the ladies. That means, if you’re a woman and you see a man in the ladies a few things happen. You’re on high alert, because wtf is a bloke doing in here? Other women in there are in high alert, because again, bloke in ladies is a red flag. No decent bloke wants to go in the ladies, what’s this guy doing here? I’m going to leave and pee elsewhere, or maybe ask this other woman if she will come in with me...

But now it’s a free for all and any man can come in, so that layer of protection is gone. That reduces safety.

Second: if I go into the ladies in John Lewis and there’s a bloke there I can go outside to one of the staff and say ‘hi, there’s a bloke in the ladies, not comfy with that,’ and the staff can ask him to leave.
But now that can’t happen. So what do I do when I need to pee and there’s a bloke in there? Is he legit? Is he going to harm me? I dont know and no one will remove him. So I have to pee with him there.

Now the onus for safety is on me alone. Before, the structural exclusion of men kept me safe. Now that’s gone.

So that’s just your ‘general male’ Population.

A man, who wants to kick the shit out of a transwomen, can also follow that transwoman into the ladies loo. And assault them.

Can you honestly see no issues with unisex bogs? Why do you think toilets have been single sex in the first place? It’s for safety

The last thing I linked was about sexual assault, and why women are concerned about the motives of men who want to self-ID as women.

As for sport, the evidence is here on this thread

You're welcome

I don't really care that Cough isn't listening. I hope other lurkers here, attracted to AIBU are gaining a bit of insight into what the fuss is about

cough if you are totally happy with men and women competing in sport together, do you also support the removal of weight categories in boxing? Would you be happy to send Amir Khan into the ring with Wladimir Klitschko? If not, why not?

No decent bloke wants to go in the ladies, what’s this guy doing here?

So you’re equally concerned about women going into the men’s?

Re: women in men's toilets

True fact:

Women can't rape. They don't have a penis

Thanks for pointing that out.

Still doesn’t answer the question.

The REAL women have to get better to beat them, perhaps take a few ton of testosterone , l mean it is only fair. We only want an even field after all

So you’re equally concerned about women going into the men’s?

Derailment. Irrelevant. A woman in the men’s is a threat to the privacy and dignity of the men. She shouldn’t be there.

She cannot rape any of the men. A man in the ladies is a SAFETY threat.

Do you accept, after reading the links above, that Male on female sexual assault happens. In toilets?

Do you support the removal of weight categories in boxing? If not, why not?

Drivel 😂

Derailment. Irrelevant.

Neither.

So do you accept that Male on female assault happens in toilets, after being given 637 examples?

And do you think it’s ok for boys to cheat girls in sports competitions?