to wonder if i will always be fat

[bluebird14]

I was a normal sized child and then gained weight around nine/ten

been fat ever since!

sometimes I lose a bit of weight but I've been morbidly obese for three years now and I just can't seem to lose it (tried loads of different things - they all work for a bit then I gain weight again.)

I just can't seem to stop eating.

There is a great Bootcamp thread running on here - thanks BIWI! - that lots of us are using a motivation. Low carb high fat - working for me at the moment, and I am genuinely not starving. There's always a bit of me that would love a biscuit, or that French Stick that I walked passed in the supermarket today, but that is purely down to willpower.

Still got a long way to go, but I'm enjoying the online support, whereas I cannot bear slimming groups.

Love these kind of threads!!

"Eat less and move more" what a crock of shit!

That sentence comes from the mouths of people who only eat when they are actually hungry. Not us fatties who struggle with various different disorders!

It's fuck all to do with willpower.

Go and get an addiction and then tell me it's easy and simple.

Yes, it really is that simple. Eat less, move more.

It is SO hard though. I was a heavy drinker, crap diet, smoked, sedentary life style.

On 27/04/18 I quit drinking (that saves me anything from 2500-5000 calories per week depending how much I was drinking at the time). I've cut all junk from my diet and also reduced carbs and started weighing my food.

Mid-May I joined a gym and have gone without fail 3 times a week for at least a 45 minute workout.

I've lost 1.2 KG. (Just over 2 pounds)

Try doing that for weeks on end with little to no result. Then imagine you have 6 stone to lose. It is VERY hard and VERY disheartening!

I've cut ALL bad stuff out of my life and started moving more. Yes i'm only 6-7 weeks in but seriously?!

I've been tracknig everything and have a calorie deficit of almost 40000 calories since I started. Still 1.2 KG lost :(

baxter that must be very depressing for you. I suggest giving up your exercise, eating nothing until mid afternoon and have your one main meal. Keep it very high good fats with loads of veg and then nothing else or if you have to a few carrots at night. Only drink water.

I saw some posters likening obesity to an alcohol or drug addiction. It's not the same at all. Going cold turkey on alcohol would be detrimental to an alcoholic, but going cold turkey on carbs wouldn't have the same effect.

slim does not mean healthy,

my boss has a bmi of 21.5 and has been diagnosed borderline type 2 diabetic with high cholesterol (6.2 combined good and bad) - just because she is slim does not mean she has made the right food choices - we are seeing more of this alongside obesity created problems.

@beyondthepage my DP is very slim (verging on looking underweight) and his diet is atrocious. My BMI is in the overweight category (28) but I have a very healthy diet full of whole foods. My cholesterol is normal whereas his is high

"Going cold turkey on alcohol would be detrimental to an alcoholic, but going cold turkey on carbs wouldn't have the same effect."

Depends if you call constant raging gnawing hunger, headaches and crushing fatigue "detrimental" really.

You have 'constant raging gnawing hunger, headaches, and crushing fatigue' if you don't eat carbs?

You have 'constant raging gnawing hunger, headaches, and crushing fatigue' if you don't eat carbs?

It is known as low carb flu...

I have low carved before. Initially very successful but in recent years found the weight came off very slowly and I just had to be so strict with it. I have just started Niko Niko style running. I have found it surprisingly easy from being a complete non runner and being pretty sedentary for over a year due to cancer treatment and a bout of bad sciatica before that. I started of initially indoors barefoot on carpet, to music, doing laps of my lounge and hall. I did 30 minutes quite easily. Did that everyday and a run outdoors at the weekend. I have lost between 1lb and half a pound since Wednesday! And I stuffed my face at the weekend!

Here it is:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=9L2b2khySLE

An article about how it burns fat etc

www.championseverywhere.com/niko-niko-pace-gentle-path-success/

I've also started a thread on it.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/exercise/3273109-niko-niko-running-technique-experiences

Sorry, I meant low carbed.

Gastric surgery is far more effective and has a far higher success rate than healthy eating. Changing the way you eat (ie a diet) has a tiny chance of loosing weight for good (15% success rate of keeping it off for 5years IIRC) but surgery is a big decision.

If it was as easy as eating less everyone would do it wouldn’t they?

I don't think denial is the way forward. Small sustainable steps. A pound loss a month is doable and equals nearly a stone a year.

Why is there so little sympathy for those of us with weight problems? Most of us have an addiction to sugar or carbs etc, it's not just a case of stopping eating the wrong crap.

I think there’s a lot of tiptoeing around. I ate the wrong things and it was as easy as getting a gym membership and cutting down on processed food to get me down from bordering a size 18 to a size 10/8 in less than a year.

People need to stop making excuses and take ownership of their own actions.

This thread is interesting. It's not simple and it's not easy. Those who think it's either, lack empathy and/or imagination.

Not everyone is capable of it violent. People aren’t the same. Good going though

I have dieted on and off for nearly 40 years. I am now the fastest I have ever been. Big BUT coming. I am trying RTT.

Diets do not work if you have always had an unhealthy relationship with food. My mother did and her mother before her.

So last week I tried Rapid Transformational Therapy. Four days in? I have drunk more water and felt more thirsty than I ever have before and I don't seek out chocolate.

When I wake up, I no longer think about what I can't have to eat for breakfast, or what I can't eat if I'm going out for lunch, that I mustn't eat pudding/drink wine/buy biscuits.

My subconscious has stopped working against me and is now working with me. So fingers crossed

Sorry, that should be fattest, not fastest!

I'm currently on week 3 of a fierce 1200 calorie diet to try and lose SOME weight for the end of June. Total loss so far, 5 pounds, all in the first 7 days. Now 15 1/2 stone. Its not all easy "just stop eating the chocs" for everyone just because it is for some.

There is a lot of defensiveness on this thread. About how people can't lose weight and how they will gain it back. I'm genuinely unsure how this helps the op. Who unless there is a medical reason. Will be perfectly capable of losing weight with the right support.

Maybe we can bring it back to helping her?

Op, what have you tried before, how long for, and what is your downfall food wise? What also makes you say fuck it and simply revert back to previous eating habits?

Please go and see your GP OP - some of the comments on this thread aren’t going to help you as they present it as a simple “just eat less” issue.

You need to rule out medical issues but assuming there aren’t any ... If you have been obese for many years then your relationship with food is likely to be deep seated and complex. Maybe accessing CBT or counselling could help.

Also - would you satisfy the criteria for bariatric surgery ? If so, is this something you would like to explore?

Your GP would be the best starting point - the advice you will and are getting on here isn’t always going to be sensitive and empathetic to someone in your situation.

Good luck x

I hate be obvious but it is as simple as eating less. Maybe a lot less if you are clinically obese. Even going to the extreme of gastric surgery means you are eating less.

It’s not easy but it is simple. People trying to complicate it with pseudo-scientific plans or magic bullets aren’t helping in the long run.

It's not simple but yes, you can change. I think overeating and alcoholism (me) are very similar. I got to a point 10 or so years ago and realised I hated it, I was killing myself and pretty much stopped. I have had the odd relapse - shamefully one quite recently - but I'm guessing it's the same kind of deal.

Either Slimming World, Weightwatchers or maybe OA? We have AA members who've lost 10 stone there because it's about redefining your thinking.