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HELP, friend is suffocating me!!

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fluffy71 · 05/06/2018 12:20

Hi there,
Please bear with me, but I really need some advice on this needy friend. We have known each other for 35 years since junior school. Through that time our friendship has ebbed and flowed, sometimes not seeing each other all that often but we've kept in touch as we have a group of mutual friends.

There have been times when our friendship has been more frenemy than friend. She's always considered me her best friend. Though I do find her to be quite competitive and in our younger years she would often say jokey put downs about my body shape or weight that would leave me seething, despite the fact that she has always struggled with her weight and I never have. However she does have her good points, she has a kind nature with my children and is incredibly generous.

I didn't see a lot of her for many years as I was having babies and spending time with other friends whilst she was developing her career.

Once my kids got older she seemed much more interested in meeting up and mellowed somewhat, so we would see each other occasionally whilst she spoke about the latest man she liked and I listened. I found her quite immature t.b.h as she always had a crush but never seemed to do anything about it. However, it was fine to listen to in short bursts. She is also incredibly late to anything we organise as a group or one to one. I found this irritating but it was easy to limit my contact with her. She has this ditzy, flaky persona that our friendship group tolerates.

However, about 8 years ago, when we were in our late 30's she disclosed to me that she was desperately unhappy and wanted to settle down with kids. I was shocked that she was so candid as she is a very private person, but I really felt for her and our friendship entered a closer stage. From then on she has disclosed so much private stuff to me, I have felt real empathy for her but is been quite overwhelming at times. I have gently suggested she tries counselling but she said she has friends to talk to so she doesn't need a counsellor!! That'll be me then!

Its been difficult to stem the tide once she realised she could confide in me, asking advice all the time on men issues or her diet or family issues. One guy she had a crush on for 7 years and never got any where with. She has never had a boyfriend, just the odd date.

For the last 5 years, she has invited herself over to my house ALL the time, holidays, weekends etc and my husband and children would have to make themselves scarce whilst she went on and on about her latest worry. It's frustrating as she never listens to advice and it was causing a strain with my husband and eating into family time. I feel like I am constantly apologising for missing calls or making excuses for not having her over. I haven't had her round my house for 12 months as she invited herself over on a bank holiday to offload and then proceeded to be 4 hours late! I didn't even want her round that day! I have challenged her over her lateness in the past but it just escalated into a row.

Two years ago she decided to try IVF with donor sperm. I have been totally supportive during her 7 attempts. I have collected her from the clinic on a number of occasions and listened to her for hours at a time when it hasn't worked. I am also unable to tell my husband that she is having treatment so have had to lie to him when driving the 120 mile round trip to the clinic. It is heartbreaking to see her go through this. I find it hard saying no to long phone calls whilst she is going through such a terrible time.

However, in the last 12 months I am finding it more difficult to be around her. I am the only person in our group of friends she has confided in. Despite the fact that she works in a different part of the country she continues to calls me all the time and still attempts to invite herself over. As I can't bear waiting in all day for her I try and placate her by meeting in a cafe near her home (she lives in my home town 30 miles away) She is always insanely late even though I tell her I have things to do after we meet. She never eats in public, she just sips hot water and seems to alternate between a very restrictive diet and then binging between treatments.

At Christmas I found myself pregnant (totally unplanned and went through turmoil about wether to continue with the pregnancy or not due to my age). It was a difficult time as my friend was also going through treatment at this time. She found out she was pregnant at Christmas and wanted to share her joyful news with me in person. I was delighted for her and provided emotional support over the phone but couldn't meet up whilst I was considering terminating a pregnancy.

Unfortunately she miscarried, and having had two myself I understand a little of her heartbreak. I felt awful at the unfairness of it all, how desperately she wanted a baby and here was I considering a termination.

I decided to continue with my pregnancy but waited until I was 15 weeks to tell her. I said I would totally understand if she didn't want to see me during my pregnancy. She was very upset when I told her but said she was happy for me. I know that this could not have been easy for her.

She's continued to continually call and text for support. She's also started saying bitchy comments about my pregnancy size. Though given what torment she is going through I can see why she is acting like this.

However I think I have now reached the end point with her. Recently one of the other girls in our friendship group organised a baby shower for me. I said to my friend that I would totally understand if she didn't want to go but she said no she would as she was in charge of buying a present. Anyway, its turned out she had a huge strop about buying baby clothes with the other girls (I totally understand why)and ended up buying her own present, but the others have no idea why! She turned up at the baby shower, looking really scruffy and did not speak one word all day and did not leave until I did. I know I might get flayed alive for this, but given all the support I've given her over the last X amount of years and that no one else knew she was going through IVF, the only person she was upsetting was me. I feel that as she decided to attend, she should have just got through the day. The rest of our friends were a bit puzzled by her behaviour but obviously I can't tell them the reason why. Since then she's been calling and inviting herself over as if nothing happened. I just can't stand it anymore!!!!!

I suppose the crux of it is that I feel she does't show me any respect but then expects me to be her personal shrink and I've had enough!

OP posts:
bevelino · 23/07/2018 07:18

I feel a bit sorry for the friend. OP has posted enough private information about the friend in her multiple and lengthy posts that it is likely the friend will be outed in real life.

Groovee · 23/07/2018 09:54

Good luck today x

fluffy71 · 16/10/2018 18:54

An update to my earlier dilemma if anyone wants to know, I had my baby boy who is now 12 weeks old and a delight. My daughter had her serious operation when my son was 1 week old. She got through it, (we all got through it!) and the difficult summer is behind us now and all looking forward to the future.
My friend and I are no longer in touch. She didnt respond to my text requesting space and I have heard through a mutual friend she is still very angry. So our 35 yr friendship is no more. I do feel sorry it ended like this and really do not wish any bad vibes to her, but do feel relief that she is no longer part of my life.

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SeaViewBliss · 16/10/2018 19:24

Congratulations on the arrival of your little boy and I’m glad your DD is ok.

Hopefully this is over for you now. You have been a great friend and she seems to have no self awareness. I think you handled it really well. Flowers

PersonaNonGarter · 16/10/2018 19:53

Congratulations! Flowers

I’m pleased to hear that your friend has gone away without you having to ‘have it out’ with her in person. What do the rest of the group think? Will you have to see her?

fluffy71 · 16/10/2018 20:00

Thank you, I do reflect and have wondered if I could have handled it differently but I think whatever I did, it would have come to the same conclusion. The fact that through a mutual friend I've heard she's still feeling aggrieved and angry about the baby shower means she would never reflect on the way she's behaved. I've heard she has found another confidant too, so is repeating the pattern. Thanks everyone for your advice

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Yellowflowersgreengrass · 16/10/2018 20:13

Well done, you did the right thing. The fact that she has not even tried to contact you though speaks volumes. I suspect you really were just a glorified therapist to her. Once you took that away she wasn’t interested in friendship!

fluffy71 · 16/10/2018 20:27

Yes I think you're right about being a glorified therapist. She has also cut herself off from the group. We havent had a big discussion about it as no one wants to be seen to be bitching if you like, but I think the general feeling is that she's taken me having a baby very badly and left it at that.

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fluffy71 · 21/12/2018 18:21

I was really hoping that I wouldn't have to post on this thread again. Its been over 5 months since I heard from clingy friend. Then, today I get a signed for package in the post with a Christmas card, an outfit for the baby and envelopes for my other children (presume there is money in them). Sounds awful but I am really enjoying the peace and don't want any drama around Christmas. Was deliberating how best to handle this. I thought about sending a thankyou card with a non committal "see you soon" in it. Thought a text now might just open up dialogue (and possible Christmas visit). Does that sound terrible? Maybe there are just kind motives behind it and I'm being a cow?

OP posts:
CoughLaughFart · 21/12/2018 18:32

It depends - do you want her out of your life, or just some space for a while?

VenusStarr · 21/12/2018 18:37

I would send a thank you card saying hope you're well and leave it at that. Acknowledge the gifts but nothing more. Concentrate on your family.

JellyBellies · 21/12/2018 18:42

Send them back. If you don't want her in your life then you have to follow through.

Heartofglass21 · 21/12/2018 18:48

Just send a thank you card in the New Year.

ZoeZebra1 · 21/12/2018 19:01

A thank you card, with a message saying "thanks for the children's gifts, I hope you are well and happy. All the best for the future"

MatildaTheCat · 21/12/2018 19:04

Exactly what ZZ1 said. That’s polite, perfect and keeps things neutral.

TowerRavenSeven · 21/12/2018 19:17

You are her earpiece, nothing more. I had a friend like this too and even though I was sort of desperate for friends (we'd just moved) I feel she took advantage of my vulnerability. Months went by before she even asked how I was doing after calls and calls from her venting and thinking out loud.

Eventually I cut her off, I had to for my mental health! I suggest you do the same. Every time she called I just said I just couldn't talk, maybe later or I just couldn't get together, maybe next time . Eventually she got the hint.

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