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HELP, friend is suffocating me!!

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fluffy71 · 05/06/2018 12:20

Hi there,
Please bear with me, but I really need some advice on this needy friend. We have known each other for 35 years since junior school. Through that time our friendship has ebbed and flowed, sometimes not seeing each other all that often but we've kept in touch as we have a group of mutual friends.

There have been times when our friendship has been more frenemy than friend. She's always considered me her best friend. Though I do find her to be quite competitive and in our younger years she would often say jokey put downs about my body shape or weight that would leave me seething, despite the fact that she has always struggled with her weight and I never have. However she does have her good points, she has a kind nature with my children and is incredibly generous.

I didn't see a lot of her for many years as I was having babies and spending time with other friends whilst she was developing her career.

Once my kids got older she seemed much more interested in meeting up and mellowed somewhat, so we would see each other occasionally whilst she spoke about the latest man she liked and I listened. I found her quite immature t.b.h as she always had a crush but never seemed to do anything about it. However, it was fine to listen to in short bursts. She is also incredibly late to anything we organise as a group or one to one. I found this irritating but it was easy to limit my contact with her. She has this ditzy, flaky persona that our friendship group tolerates.

However, about 8 years ago, when we were in our late 30's she disclosed to me that she was desperately unhappy and wanted to settle down with kids. I was shocked that she was so candid as she is a very private person, but I really felt for her and our friendship entered a closer stage. From then on she has disclosed so much private stuff to me, I have felt real empathy for her but is been quite overwhelming at times. I have gently suggested she tries counselling but she said she has friends to talk to so she doesn't need a counsellor!! That'll be me then!

Its been difficult to stem the tide once she realised she could confide in me, asking advice all the time on men issues or her diet or family issues. One guy she had a crush on for 7 years and never got any where with. She has never had a boyfriend, just the odd date.

For the last 5 years, she has invited herself over to my house ALL the time, holidays, weekends etc and my husband and children would have to make themselves scarce whilst she went on and on about her latest worry. It's frustrating as she never listens to advice and it was causing a strain with my husband and eating into family time. I feel like I am constantly apologising for missing calls or making excuses for not having her over. I haven't had her round my house for 12 months as she invited herself over on a bank holiday to offload and then proceeded to be 4 hours late! I didn't even want her round that day! I have challenged her over her lateness in the past but it just escalated into a row.

Two years ago she decided to try IVF with donor sperm. I have been totally supportive during her 7 attempts. I have collected her from the clinic on a number of occasions and listened to her for hours at a time when it hasn't worked. I am also unable to tell my husband that she is having treatment so have had to lie to him when driving the 120 mile round trip to the clinic. It is heartbreaking to see her go through this. I find it hard saying no to long phone calls whilst she is going through such a terrible time.

However, in the last 12 months I am finding it more difficult to be around her. I am the only person in our group of friends she has confided in. Despite the fact that she works in a different part of the country she continues to calls me all the time and still attempts to invite herself over. As I can't bear waiting in all day for her I try and placate her by meeting in a cafe near her home (she lives in my home town 30 miles away) She is always insanely late even though I tell her I have things to do after we meet. She never eats in public, she just sips hot water and seems to alternate between a very restrictive diet and then binging between treatments.

At Christmas I found myself pregnant (totally unplanned and went through turmoil about wether to continue with the pregnancy or not due to my age). It was a difficult time as my friend was also going through treatment at this time. She found out she was pregnant at Christmas and wanted to share her joyful news with me in person. I was delighted for her and provided emotional support over the phone but couldn't meet up whilst I was considering terminating a pregnancy.

Unfortunately she miscarried, and having had two myself I understand a little of her heartbreak. I felt awful at the unfairness of it all, how desperately she wanted a baby and here was I considering a termination.

I decided to continue with my pregnancy but waited until I was 15 weeks to tell her. I said I would totally understand if she didn't want to see me during my pregnancy. She was very upset when I told her but said she was happy for me. I know that this could not have been easy for her.

She's continued to continually call and text for support. She's also started saying bitchy comments about my pregnancy size. Though given what torment she is going through I can see why she is acting like this.

However I think I have now reached the end point with her. Recently one of the other girls in our friendship group organised a baby shower for me. I said to my friend that I would totally understand if she didn't want to go but she said no she would as she was in charge of buying a present. Anyway, its turned out she had a huge strop about buying baby clothes with the other girls (I totally understand why)and ended up buying her own present, but the others have no idea why! She turned up at the baby shower, looking really scruffy and did not speak one word all day and did not leave until I did. I know I might get flayed alive for this, but given all the support I've given her over the last X amount of years and that no one else knew she was going through IVF, the only person she was upsetting was me. I feel that as she decided to attend, she should have just got through the day. The rest of our friends were a bit puzzled by her behaviour but obviously I can't tell them the reason why. Since then she's been calling and inviting herself over as if nothing happened. I just can't stand it anymore!!!!!

I suppose the crux of it is that I feel she does't show me any respect but then expects me to be her personal shrink and I've had enough!

OP posts:
Pippylou · 15/07/2018 11:53

You've been very sensitive.

If she continues now, she really isn't in her right mind & that really is professional help time.

Good wishes for the new baby.

PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 15/07/2018 12:07

10/10 OP. Thoughtfully put.

My single biggest piece of advice is that now you must commit to your position and see it through and that includes blocking her number/not answering the door/not responding to texts or emails etc. It’s the only way you’ll manage to make this hit home

fluffy71 · 15/07/2018 12:08

Thankyou Pippylou and everyone else who took the trouble to read and offer advice. I do think she's needs help. Someone mentioned she may have a personality disorder and reading up on them does describe a lot of her characteristic's. I hope that this boundary will be adhered to but the most important thing is that finally I don't feel guilty enforcing it.

OP posts:
TheMaddHugger · 15/07/2018 12:23

@fluffy71 I hope she leaves you alone now. ((((Madd Hugs))))))

fluffy71 · 15/07/2018 12:27

PaulHollywood, oh yes I intend to stick to I know if I let her back in again she will be at my bedside in hospital crying next week without a doubt. Just about to sit in the garden in the shade and read my book. My oldest is away on exchange trip and my other 2 are sat with my husband watching a film. All very relaxed. Wishing you all a relaxing weekend!

OP posts:
redexpat · 15/07/2018 12:44

Very well expressed text. I hope you have a relaxing w/e too.

BentOutOfShape · 15/07/2018 13:12

Excellent and tactful text.

Gemini69 · 15/07/2018 13:21

fabulously balanced and direct text.... well done OP.. Flowers

fluffy71 · 16/07/2018 12:32

Believe me, this will be my final post on this matter... So much for hoping she might reflect... one of our mutual friends just contacted me as she met up with stalker friend yesterday (I rung this girl last week for a bit of moral support as I knew she had problems with said friend's draining behaviour in the past).

She said that said friend is now extremely paranoid that our group are talking about her over the baby shower. (You have a huge strop over someone else's party and are angry that people organising it might be pissed off with you for it?) The week before she was very angry about the way SHE was treated by them as she's still upset that they bought me baby clothes. Its all ME ME ME ME ME...

She also insisted on going to particular pubs looking for her long time crush (has held a candle for him since 1990, I kid you not) but never got anywhere with him! Honestly she acts like a 12 year old. Its weird.

This is not a rational person who really wants a baby, its a very mixed up person who doesn't really know what they want. But just wants to piss on my parade. This has been a huge lesson to me about boundaries thats for sure!!!!

OP posts:
TheMaddHugger · 16/07/2018 12:49

she isnt a well person, I wouldn't blame her for her condition. I would however avoid her like the plague
((((Hugs)))

FacelikeaBagofHammers · 16/07/2018 12:52

I'm so stressed out on your behalf OP.

Your (ex) friend sounds unhinged. You are 100% right to focus on you and your family right now.

What's very annoying about this is that despite having blocked her, you're still being impacted by her behaviour via third parties. I hope you can get 'free' of her soon.

Best of luck with the new arrival :)

Jlo7 · 16/07/2018 13:09

i have a friend like this who is currently the only single one left in our friendship group and the one shes closest too has just met a great guy and the single friend is puttin alot of stress on her causing problems for her new relationship. weve all been friends 17 years. you do not owe this woman anything, it sounds very onesided and she sounds like she could really bring u down and nows definitely not the time. how about not answering the phone all the time, if she turns up at yours let her know its not convenient...? a little white lie here and there that you are busy with plans wont hurt. PLUS you have a baby on the way, you need your space, time with your family and a little bit more of your attention will be on someone else and not her.....act now before she gets out of hand, youre not a bad person for doing so either. GL.

tillytillytilly2018 · 16/07/2018 13:17

She sounds deeply sad. I feel really sorry for her. It’s horrible going through infertility, baby loss and to top it off all on her own without a partner. All the while she watches you seemingly having the life that she wants. It must be heartbreaking for her.

However, you are not her councillor or her partner. I would write her a letter and explain that you care about her but you are not in a position to be her councillor. Suggest she goes for councilling. I feel sad for you too op x

tillytillytilly2018 · 16/07/2018 13:19

Also I think you can and should be honest with your husband about what’s going on. He will support you 💐

tillytillytilly2018 · 16/07/2018 13:20

Just read your update 😂 Good move OP xxx

BackToTheFuschia7 · 16/07/2018 13:42

Well done OP. You’ve handled it well and hope you can relax now.

ohfourfoxache · 16/07/2018 14:21

You did really well op Thanks

I’m not totally convinced you’ve seen the last of her, you will need to maintain your boundaries

fluffy71 · 16/07/2018 14:38

Thanks all, it feels good to finally put boundaries in place. I'm under no illusion I'll have to carry on being firm. But now I've finally had the nerve to stand up to her, I think it will be easier to do so. I have a sister with mental health issues and if they don't want to get help there is no way you can make them. They just end up alienating themselves by more gradually displaying even more eccentric behaviour. Maybe this is why I have been so tolerant of my friends behaviour. However I know I can't do anymore for her without great risk of my happiness and sanity, and that is something I am not prepared to do.

OP posts:
accendo · 22/07/2018 15:42

How is everything going @fluffy71

fluffy71 · 23/07/2018 05:33

Hi accendo, all going well here. I'm going in to have my elective c section this morning! Still have block on phone so no contact at all from my friend and it is does feel easier and calmer
I have to admit. We've had date through for my daughters big op which is next wed 1st, so all happening here for our family! Will keep you posted, lots of love xxx

OP posts:
stopfuckingshoutingatme · 23/07/2018 06:04

I think that after so many years just cutting her would be very painful for both of you and it wouldn’t sit easy for your conscience . You sound very kind OP

You need to tell her ! Say you are a bit hurt , it’s feels very one sided . You know and empathise she is struggling . But you are hurt too and that you just can’t always be her shoulder . She would really benefit from talking therapy

Good luck

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 23/07/2018 06:14

OMG just saw last 2 pages

Good luck for today FlowersFlowersFlowers

This is all very draining x

RockYourSocksOff · 23/07/2018 07:00

Best wishes Fluffy. Today you get to meet the most important person in your life right now. Well done on being firm with your friend.

Good luck Flowers

TipseyTorvey · 23/07/2018 07:01

Just read through that rollercoaster ride! How draining and annoying for you and your family. Good luck with the C section today though and wishing you a lovely healthy calm post birth period without that loon haranguing you. I had a similar sounding 'friend' years ago that i went nc with and reading this has brought it all back. Deleting her from your life is the best thing you can do!

HettySunshine · 23/07/2018 07:05

All the very best for you today OP. I hope you have a lovely day with your family and you new baby.

I'll be think of you all on the 1st as well.