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To stockpile food, medicine and petrol?

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Laudanumm · 03/06/2018 21:18

So apparently we're now at very high risk of exiting the EU in March without a trade agreement with the EU. The government wanted to keep it secret, but it's been leaked that the middle of the 3 outcomes they're discussing, so not the bad one, is the port of Dover collapsing on day 1, immediate food shortages and almost immediate petrol and medicine shortages - as in, no food in the supermarkets. It's in the Sunday Times. AIBU to start stockpiling?

To stockpile food, medicine and petrol?
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MadeleineMaxwell · 04/06/2018 17:31

The EU is about protecting peace in Europe

So much this. You can argue the ins and outs of the EU all day, I don't believe anyone aside from maybe a handful of specialists has a complete and impartial overview of every single aspect of it. We're all arguing from a position of at least partial ignorance. We were all certainly voting from one.

But one thing you can't argue with is the fact that Europe, whose countries have a long and shameful history of killing each other on a huge scale and on a regular basis, hasn't done so since the EU was founded. And we're risking civil war to leave it, not to mention positioning ourselves alone and friendless against future threats. It's simply madness.

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Laudanumm · 04/06/2018 17:38

WhollyFather - no, this isn't the worst of the 3 government no deal scenarios. This is number 2. Number 3 is still a closely guarded secret.

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NewMinouMinou · 04/06/2018 17:40

Soros? Vindictive? Unelected?
Calm down, dear; you’re hysterical.

NewMinouMinou · 04/06/2018 17:41

I wonder what Shitstorm #3 looks like...

Thesearepearls · 04/06/2018 17:42

If there are food shortages, and massive problems with the NHS due to there being no staff as they've all been deported, do you think it would be reasonable/sensible solution to eat the Brexiteers?

It would see a reduction in population of 52%, taking the pressure off health and social services. I know some of you out there might be a bit squeamish because it might feel a bit like cannibalism but if you stand back and look at the potential problem, isn't it the only solution?

lettuceWrap · 04/06/2018 17:46

If secret scenario 3 isn’t “packs of starving cannibals stalk the land”, I wonder if it’s “Britain becomes the 51st State”... I’m being a little bit flippant here of course but I’ve always thought we need to be in the EU to protect us from our friends, the Americans. More so now, with Trump in charge.

Buteo · 04/06/2018 17:47

NewMinouMinou Not hysterical, that’s for us women. It’s good old mansplaining.

Frequency · 04/06/2018 17:49

If there are food shortages, and massive problems with the NHS due to there being no staff as they've all been deported, do you think it would be reasonable/sensible solution to eat the Brexiteers?

Only the few who are otherwise normally sensible, well read, educated individuals who manage to hold down good jobs.

I genuinely don't blame the likes of the brexiteers who I've spoken to. They really had no clue what they were voting for. One poor woman came into my work in tears because she thought she was voting to save the NHS and then the next day when they retracted that promise, she finally did some reading and realised what she'd done. Fortunately, for her, one of the 'they need us more than we need them' folk was able to calm her down. She's now back to parroting 'project fear' and 'take back control' etc.

She's a carer in one of the most deprived areas in the NE.

NewMinouMinou · 04/06/2018 17:49

Mansplaining with a big side order of unimaginative conspiracy, too.

MadeleineMaxwell · 04/06/2018 17:50

More so now, with Trump in charge.

And his successor/s is/are going to have their hands full with damage limitation for much too long to bother about us.

lettuceWrap · 04/06/2018 17:55

MM, they will be MASSIVELY pressuring us to lower our food, drug and agrochemical quality regulations- they, as they do already.

Luisa27 · 04/06/2018 17:56

Gosh, are you some sort of Brexshit soothsayer who none of us have heard of Whollyfather ?
How do you know all this? Please share.

NewMinouMinou · 04/06/2018 17:58

No - just a rabid Kalergi conspiracy theorist.

user1486062886 · 04/06/2018 18:02

The biggest trouble is it’s hard to know who to believe everybody seems to have its own agenda, just listening to the radio on the way home and some ministers calling it project fear on speed, and they have done many different scenarios and somebody ( let’s be honest is a remainer ) has leaked the worst case scenario, I suppose it depends on which way you voted, what or whom you believe

DarlingNikita · 04/06/2018 18:05

Minou, 'I wonder what Shitstorm #3 looks like...'

The Road, I imagine.

SergeantPfeffer · 04/06/2018 18:05

Serbia and Bosnia are not in the EU, InfiniteSheldon Hmm

user1486062886 · 04/06/2018 18:09

Frequency Oh come on I now many very clever rich business man/ women how voted leave nd I know a few very clever remain people because obviously they all are. One voted remain because she still wanted to go to Spain for her yearly holiday and the other who voted remain because she uses her phone on holiday and want be able to, another voted remain because she likes a certain French wine, as you can see all well thought out reasons to vote remain

Buteo · 04/06/2018 18:10

The Road indeed.

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Laudanumm · 04/06/2018 18:13

People are being sneered at and dismissed as Remoaners simply because they have looked at the facts and are concerned and have raised those concerns. Being concerned is apparently reason enough for your views to be dismissed out of hand. Why not look at the facts - whichever way you voted originally - and if you feel that they justify feeling concerned, then go ahead and express that concern, preferably loudly and publicly.
It is possible to realise at this stage that Leaving is not a good idea - even though you voted for it originally!

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user1486062886 · 04/06/2018 18:15

Icantreachthepretzels I can’t speak for everyone about the figures on the bus, but I could see that not all that figure would go to the NHS and I would be amassed if people voted to leave solely for that reason, it’s like people voting to remain because of the project fear trying to frighten people to vote remain, both sides as bad as each other

NewMinouMinou · 04/06/2018 18:15

Heh heh!
The Road!
I reckon immediate martial law and curfews etc.

user1486062886 · 04/06/2018 18:18

Buteo And it’s no wonder we are still at each other’s throats, yet again I very much doubt people solely vote leave to get blue passports

MimpiDreams · 04/06/2018 18:21

If there are food shortages, and massive problems with the NHS due to there being no staff as they've all been deported, do you think it would be reasonable/sensible solution to eat the Brexiteers?

It would see a reduction in population of 52%, taking the pressure off health and social services. I know some of you out there might be a bit squeamish because it might feel a bit like cannibalism but if you stand back and look at the potential problem, isn't it the only solution?

No not a good idea. I hear they're very bitter.

KennDodd · 04/06/2018 18:22

@mummymeister

how many people honestly can say that their lives have radically and irrevocably changed since the Brexit vote?

I'm losing my job because of Brexit and my children have had to rethink future plans.

Frequency · 04/06/2018 18:28

Frequency Oh come on I now many very clever rich business man/ women how voted leave nd I know a few very clever remain people because obviously they all are. One voted remain because she still wanted to go to Spain for her yearly holiday and the other who voted remain because she uses her phone on holiday and want be able to, another voted remain because she likes a certain French wine, as you can see all well thought out reasons to vote remain

Which is precisely what I have been saying, the majority of people did not know what they were voting for. They didn't understand it. Some still don't. Some understand only slightly more. I don't fully understand it myself and I did hours and hours of reading in the run up to the vote.

Either way, promises have been broken, plans weren't made, the instigators of this shit storm have all abandoned ship and more information is available now. We need to make decisions based on that, not on a refundum where half the people voting didn't know what they were voting for.

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