To stockpile food, medicine and petrol?

[Laudanumm]

So apparently we're now at very high risk of exiting the EU in March without a trade agreement with the EU. The government wanted to keep it secret, but it's been leaked that the middle of the 3 outcomes they're discussing, so not the bad one, is the port of Dover collapsing on day 1, immediate food shortages and almost immediate petrol and medicine shortages - as in, no food in the supermarkets. It's in the Sunday Times. AIBU to start stockpiling?

I have an allotment as a hobby. Unless you are pretty good at growing veg and have plenty of time you don't even break even, financially. Better off using the money you'd spend on allotment fees/seeds/tools buying cans and packets in Aldi.

NewMinouMinou Yes, predictive text again, I could never understand why she took the position, DC should have been made to see it through, if anything he should be in jail for dereliction of duty, for not doing any planning for a leave vote.

So a EU business that has 50-70 % exports to the U.K. can just find new customers like that,

I quite clearly said some businesses would be affected and would have to make other arrangements. However I also pointed out that they had an advantage over us in that their govts are creating new infrastructures and they do still have the rest of the trading bloc to go to. Things won;t stay the same, some may be worse off. But still not a disaster for them as it is for us.
Did you even actually read the post and understand it.

The local ferry companies can diversify, Euro tunnel and its freight traffic will just sit bye. Etc
Yes the ferries and the freight companies can diversify. Ships can go wherever there is water - we have already seen that plans to link Ireland to the mainland, and cut out Britain, are underway. Haulage companies will haul to other places. They will diversify their business model and adapt to circumstances.
The channel tunnel may cease to run - but that isn't really any skin off the EU27's nose is it?

British ferry companies and British freight companies? yeah they're fucked. EU27 ones - not so much.

THEWORLDISFULL,

I have large freezers, but they are only good as long as there’s electric! Then you have about 3 days to cook/eat as much as you can (have been in that situation due to power loss)! Best to stockpile cans etc that don’t need power to stay fresh.

People should've had to study and pass an exam before being allowed to cast their vote. None of this would've happened if the public had any clue what it would mean for our future and stability.

I'm certain some posters on this thread aren't entirely clear on what the EU actually is and what they do never mind anything more complex.

Madeleine - bloody good point about the 40 years!

lettuceWrap

A Honda EU 2000 generator will power your freezer. It’s quiet too so won’t draw attention to you.

Icantreachthepretzels All those things can not happen quickly enough, if the domesday you are talking about happens, they will have to have a very large cash surplus to carry them through or will get dragged under as well

Frequency what a disgusting thing to say. How dare you insinuate that people can't vote if they have no education!? How DARE you! Working class people in the UK have had bastard GENERATIONS of neglect and oppression and you dare sit there like some Victorian twat spouting utter shite about studying and passing exams!

User, they’re already on the case! Any that aren’t are a bit daft!

Yes - but it is still only a tiny minority of the EU citizens and businesses! It will not affect everybody. Most people's lives will go on exactly as it did before. The same is not true for Britain.
But they have had since 2016 to get their ducks in a row. They are doing it!
And it is not me dictating doomsday. It is a govt report!

predicting - not dictating.

@lettuceWrap , look at what the Americans call canning- vacuum sealing stuff in jars. If you don't want to go to the expense of buying a pressure canner for meat, you can "water bath " jars of high acid stuff like tomato sauce - preserve them in jars using that technique.Dunno what you grow but if you make it into a pasta sauce you can water bath it in an ordinary big deep pan.
You can also dehydrate meat. Dehydrators are pretty cheap.
Saves in freezer space. Or is an alternative if the power goes for a long time.
Apologies to anyone who isn't into this kind of thing but @lettuceWrap might be interested from other posts they have done.

I know, Pretzels. It’s not the press or a load of hysterics, it’s a government report.

@lettuceWrap - apologies for bold text

Icantreachthepretzels There is already freight ferry’s to Ireland from Spain,

I meant an exam on the EU/trade and basic economics etc not general/higher education. I am working class. My peers (the ones I spoke to) voted to get rid of the brown people. They voted under the impression that 'they (the EU) need us more than we need them'. They voted to save the NHS. In other words, they had no fucking clue what they were voting for. If they'd been encouraged to read a bit, maybe they would've voted differently.

I am pretty sure that whatever happens, stockpiling petrol is probably not going to improve the situation

Frequency Oh I'm sure all the people who've had shit educations at failing comps will do terribly well in an exam about economics

As for "If they'd been encouraged to read a bit" You're just digging yourself a worse hole than ever!

People should've had to study and pass an exam before being allowed to cast their vote. None of this would've happened if the public had any clue what it would mean for our future and stability.

I hadn't a clue what it would mean - still don't to be honest - I think a lot of it is still conjecture, but am not brave enough to stick my head up above the parapet too much...

I voted remain, plenty of us clueless peeps on both sides.

lostinsunshine

We bottle/can our produce. It’s so easy.

Frequency You are right it should have never gone to a public vote, I don’t think it’s a case of they need us more than we need them, more a case of uncontrolled immigration and the recent change in law will help with that, shame they didn’t give DC a bone when he went to them with his begging bowl out and got sent packing with them laughing behind him

Nice one, Kursk.

What is all this rubbish about petrol shortages and power outages?

Oil, petrol, diesel, gas, coal and every other type of fuel do not arrive into the country on lorries travelling through Dover or any other port. Most of it originates outside the EU to start with and it arrives in bulk carriers (ships) and through pipelines. There will be no delays caused by extra searches or paperwork, no chance of it getting held up in queues of other vehicles and no risk to supplies whatsoever.

Frequency Oh I'm sure all the people who've had shit educations at failing comps will do terribly well in an exam about economics

I had a shit education, at a failing comprehensive school. I am more than capable of learning, thank you very much. So are the people I went to school with.

I really do believe this particular vote, given the likely outcome was too important and complex for the majority of the public to be allowed a say. They/We did not understand what they/we were voting for.

I work in a public facing role. Brexit at the time was a massive talking point, people really did vote for the reasons I posted about. Very few of those I spoke to (dozens a day, as I said 'are you brexit or remain was a hot topic) understood what the FTA agreement was. Most likened it to only being allowed to shop at Sainsbury's (Sainsbury's being the EU) and if we leave we can start shopping at Aldi and Asda (China and the US) with no understanding that we could already and did already import from China and the US. That is an actual description of the EU an actual person gave me when I told them I was remain.

It's not fair to inflict the price rises, the mass unemployment etc on these people because while, yeah, they voted for it, they didn't understand that is what they were voting for. And they are the ones who are going to be hit the hardest.