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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think vegetarian dd is being unreasonable?

646 replies

Abergavenny · 31/05/2018 19:54

A few weeks ago, Dd aged 14 declared that she is now a vegetarian. It’s a bit of a hassle, given that the rest of us (2 parents + 2 siblings) all eat meat, but I’m getting the hang of it i.e. doing quorn chicken for her while doing normal chicken for the rest of us.

Yesterday, however, she refused to eat what I’d made her - I’d done a tomato pasta bake with meatballs, and put veggie meatballs in at one end for her. But she refused to eat it because it had been cooked in the same dish as the meat.

AIBU to think she’s being unreasonably precious given that she ate meat for 13 and a bit years before this?

And is it unreasonable to refuse to cook her anything else, and tell her she either eats veggie options cooked in the same pan as meat or makes her own meal?

OP posts:
Tink06 · 01/06/2018 00:19

I hadn't read the full thread when I replied earlier but I can't believe how many people see it as a massive hassle. I honestly don't find it a problem catering for veggie dc - tonight's curry for example - similar sauces made in 2 pans both had the same veg but 1 had chicken (which I hate chopping) and one had red lentils. No extra shopping either. All the stuff she eats we have in and I buy anyway. You just have to be a bit more careful checking labels sometimes. Lots of easy veggie recipes.
Cooking and shopping are good life skills to learn for all dcs not just the veggie ones.

polsha · 01/06/2018 00:19

You need to respect her choice Shock

jaynelovesagathachristie · 01/06/2018 00:25

I was your daughter turned veggie at 14 difference was my parents cooked everything separately. 31 now still don't eat meat, everything separate. Yabu to not respect her enough

iwishicouldbelikedavidwatts · 01/06/2018 00:30

i love the way that mothers are magically expected to produce no matter what the changing demands.

have any of the veggie posters whose parents (? mothers, surely) magically produced food for them considered the cost it might have taken, for someone who learned to cook in an era when small amounts of meat products were considered fundamental for flavour or substance to essentially vegetable-based dishes?

OrdinaryGirl · 01/06/2018 00:33

Pyongyang
iwishicouldbelikedavidwatts
*Metoodear
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I'm with you guys. (Squarely in the minority) Ok the OP probably could have cooked the meatballs in two separate dishes on that occasion but the daughter needs to learn that taking an ethical stand has consequences requiring personal responsibility, effort, time, drudge and faff.

Moreover, that faff shouldn't simply be delegated to her mother who has not made that choice. In this instance, the daughter would need to learn to cook and plan vegetarian meals, and create a shopping list so that the ingredients can be available for her. As has been pointed out, nobody would object cooking a special meat-free meal for a guest, but to commence doing so every single day is another thing entirely.

The mum might offer to learn a few veggie recipes, as a kind gesture, but it would be up to her how much she felt willing or able to deliver, over and above the considerable amount of effort that goes into just getting hot food on the table for one's family.

I find the general consensus on this thread that any decent mum should start cooking their kids separate meals for non-medical reasons absolutely staggering.

WhatToDoAboutWailmerGoneRogue · 01/06/2018 00:34

TattyFrench Don’t ask the question if you won’t like the answer.

mummypeepee · 01/06/2018 00:37

Mmmm yummy veggie balls cooked in meat juice. You know you abvu right?

PurpleDaisies · 01/06/2018 00:38

And having family veggie days is a no go I’m afraid as my older dd is frequently anaemic

Nobody needs to eat meat every meal, anaemia or not.

PurpleDaisies · 01/06/2018 00:40

I find the general consensus on this thread that any decent mum should start cooking their kids separate meals for non-medical reasons absolutely staggering.

It doesn’t have to be a completely separate meal. Most veggie dishes can start out as the same base as a meat dish and then be split.

iwishicouldbelikedavidwatts · 01/06/2018 00:41

@PurpleDaisies i really appreciate your offer to supply my family of 4 with healthy vegetarian meals daily. what would i do without the internet?

hadenough · 01/06/2018 00:41

YABVU. If it's cooked in the same dish as meat then of course it isn't vegetarian! As for the poster who said they have told their vegetarian DD that she'll have to 'pick out the meat' and eat vegetables cooked in the same dish as a chicken... totally speechless/shocked (and I'm not a vegetarian). If someone chooses to become vegetarian you should respect it not force them to eat contaminated food.

PurpleDaisies · 01/06/2018 00:43

@PurpleDaisies i really appreciate your offer to supply my family of 4 with healthy vegetarian meals daily. what would i do without the internet?

If you look on the internet, there are hundreds of easy, healthy vegetarian dishes suitable for a family of four.

iwishicouldbelikedavidwatts · 01/06/2018 00:44

contaminated food wtaf? "food that was good enough for all of your ancestors that grew up in a similar geographical area, but i guess they weren't woke enough"

CadyHeron · 01/06/2018 00:47

As for the poster who said they have told their vegetarian DD that she'll have to 'pick out the meat'

I missed that one Grin
This thread and some of the responses are reminding me of that episode of Royle Family with Nana, I think it was?
" You can eat a bit of ham, or pick it out!" (can't remember exact quote)
used to laugh but it's clearly funny as it's somewhat true to life it seems Grin

iwishicouldbelikedavidwatts · 01/06/2018 00:47

"easy, healthy vegetarian dishes suitable for a family of four, understanding that you have difficulties with finance, space, executive function and children with very specific requirements"

great thanks - link me up :)

CadyHeron · 01/06/2018 00:49

IwishIcouldbe - that'll mean contaminated with meat.If you're vegetarian, you're clearly not going to be wanting a dish that's been cooked with meat. As in,it's not veggie as it's got meat at one end of it. Ergo, contaminated with meat and its juices.

AssassinatedBeauty · 01/06/2018 00:50

@iwishicouldbelikedavidwatts sorry, I meant I couldn't understand your post in the sense of it making sense as a sentence. I can't decipher it.

Blue2017 · 01/06/2018 00:51

You are being very unreasonable

AssassinatedBeauty · 01/06/2018 00:55

"if a 14 year old cannot cook themselves a meal then its time they damn well learned!"

This will no doubt apply to any other children in the household, regardless of their dietary choices? So the vegetarian child isn't being singled out to damn well learn to cook, the same is expected of their siblings.

PyongyangKipperbang · 01/06/2018 01:20

AssassinatedBeauty

When I read my post back I realised I had missed that important point!

In my house, yes. Cannot speak for others.

iwishicouldbelikedavidwatts · 01/06/2018 01:41

@iwishicouldbelikedavidwatts sorry, I meant I couldn't understand your post in the sense of it making sense as a sentence. I can't decipher it.

sorry my executive functioning is shot. if you can quote the problematic sentence i can happily try to explain.

Mummyoflittledragon · 01/06/2018 05:20

@pinkgirl1234
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Bettyfood · 01/06/2018 05:28

I don't understand the fuss about cooking for a vegetarian, and do people really eat meat or fish with every meal?

The bit about heavy periods and meat consumption is nonsense as well.

HarryLovesDraco · 01/06/2018 05:34

And having family veggie days is a no go I’m afraid as my older dd is frequently anaemic from heavy periods so there’s no way I’m going to reduce her meat consumption to suit dd2

Grin oh dear
That's just ridiculous.

Booie09 · 01/06/2018 05:48

Why could you not do a little saucepan of sauce separate to yours!! Do you use a jar or cook from scratch? Think your being awkward.

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