To think Mumsnet doesn't hate Instagram influencers?

[jamoncrumpets]

And for prominent influencers who I will not name here for fear of them kicking off and getting the thread pulled to even hint that this might be the case is irresponsible on their part?

SO much gets discussed on MN every day. So much gets criticised. Social media influencers are a new and intriguing phenomenon - why wouldn't they be discussed here? For better or worse?

Many people have supported influencers for the way they earn money. That gets ignored. Many have politely criticised and pointed out ways it could be more ethical. This gets ignored. One or two have made comments that are personal or cross the line, these have been pounced on and discussed publicly.

The 'arguments' die down. People stop caring. Then prominent influencers go and start the whole thing up again.

Blaming MN is just lazy and irresponsible.

"I unfollowed ages ago" (but still know exactly what she posted and it's so cringe and that she's been "hawking") alrighty then.

@ARumDo I agree. What on Earth will we be in for when their children get their own accounts?!? 😳

@CadyHeron you’re creepy! The way you jump on every board defending those who are being deceitful to their oh so loyal fan girls. Why would you do it?

I'm on the thread only a page ago, about ads. Hardly just jumping in.

The ads is an interesting topic, I do think it's good to be clear. The whole discussion about if it's right to put your kids "out there" - food for thought. Should have a little bit of privacy. even if just say obscuring faces.

I’ll admit to cringing at quite a few stories lately. I’ve found some of the charity ones, followed by immediate outfit posts with swipe up links to be really inappropriate. The charity posts should stand on their own for a while, before the highstreet hawking comes back.

You seriously couldn’t make this shit up- this is the advertisement I was faced with on this page!

@Cady by jumping I meant you involve yourself in every one of these boards- why you so bothered?!?

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@doctorbubbles I’ve asked her this numerous times. No real answer.

Doctor bubbles - there's a reason you've got Instagram adverts down your page - the fact you're on an IG thread. Tailored ads, cookie wizardry type thing.

It's very odd how some posters are so critical of how other posters may comment on the way instagrammers are viewed by their followers (who may come here and post). Having read all of the threads there's a common theme. CadyHeron has an obsession with the googly-eyed confusion posts about how people are so obsessed with commenting and being over invested in accounts they profess to hate. This crops up over and over. But there's actually very little evidence of this and there are no rules for who and why people follow accounts on Instagram so why spend months and months popping up to try to make people feel weird for having a (sometimes negative) opinion on something they've viewed. It's not weird or stalking.
I follow Martha, and it just so happens one of the first ads I noticed her doing was for Tesco school uniform. I noticed because I really don't like Tesco clothes. The children clearly attended state school and wore navy jumpers and Tesco clothes, fast forward 7 months and the children are in very different uniform, ties and green, and looking very much like private school (is Instagram really that lucrative?!) I'm not over invested. I don't care what these people do and Martha's account has lost the sparkle I followed for originally. She made me laugh and seemed normal. But yes I noticed. It seems like here, if you don't comment positively then you are attacked or accused of being over invested.
Yet it's not seen as odd that someone spends months on threads arguing weirdly and defending Instagram reality stars.
I've read the threads and to clearly recall Sofia slagging off Katie Price and I'm unsure why that's ok but talking about other reality stars is so outrageous or unfair. There are pages of threads on AIBU discussing people in the public eye and it's odd these accounts and these fake seekers are so fawned over and protected. If someone wants to moan about a post, so what? What's wrong with that?
I don't like the discrepancies between gifted and ad and sponsored and I feel like some are still trying to hide. Comments are appearing from Instagram users that aren't just evil mumsnetters, I saw comments yesterday saying 'oh god why another ad, keep it on tv' and I'm sure they'll be jumped on.
I've no issue with the poster 'Alan' questioning posts and reporting to ASA. If they've done nothing wrong they have nothing to hide and perhaps ASA will get bored of all the reports and actually step up the regulations on Instagram. Fair play to Alan, I don't see it as a troll. It's much the same as posters coming on here and needling other posters.
And at the end of the day, I have unfollowed MOD and FOD. I followed them for years. I've read she's taken a different turn. I might go back and look, does that make me weird? Am I just bitching? Who has made these rules? If I think 'oh what's FOD up to?' What's wrong with that? In the same way I might stop watching a tv program but then try it again.
And actually I did look at FOD yesterday and if my other half posted those stories doing that to my yr 6 in a supermarket I would be fuming. I didn't find it funny, I thought it was stupid and dangerous. It the kind of thing my teenage son and his mates did, it was twatty thrn and it's twatty now. Especially in the supermarket. But no doubt someone will defend his hilarious fun loving actions.

It's because lots of the instamums or their friends/family are on these threads bored, hence all the OTT defending of them. You just have to mention a certainly family and then M5 comes on. I guess on celeb threads the celebs most likely don't read them or couldn't give a shit/have thicker skin. I don't agree with personal attacks on anyone though.

I feel a slight shift though in that people are starting to feel they can challenge things in a respectful way on IG slightly more (depends on the IGer a lot though I suspect). The discussion under the Alison Perry post is still going on and it is an excellent read.

M5 was on another level.

It’s MLM in action. I have mentioned this previsouly and the more these threads continue the more I believe it.
It is just like the world of Juice Plus, Forever Living etc etc.
Praise the top people, suck up to them and sell the product to the minions. Make out that all your success is based on the product.
Be proud of your amazing entrepreneur skills!

Oh hod FOD's stories are becoming increasingly cringe! The supermarket stuff? If I saw someone doing that in the supermarket I would just be like oh fuck off. He reminds me more and more of Richard Madeley or something?

People must love it though and be egging him on?

I think it's true about the MLM thing though - people will repeatedly comment on how 'hilarious' this shite is in an attempt to get 'noticed' by the top dog Instagrammers I guess. Its bizarre!

I have no idea why someone would misbehave (and encourage their child to misbehave) in a supermarket. I think if the person in question came from a lower socioeconomic economic group they would be judged, whereas middle class privilege makes it (not to me) funny. I’m sure many insta followers would say they wouldn’t judge #youdoyou so I could never definitively prove this!

Alison Perry is allowing open debate and being great about difference between trolling and criticism. I know I am privileged myself and I think it’s good that she’s acknowledged it and is taking considerable flak for not having done so before, rather than just pretending racism, prejudice and racial bias etc all doesn’t exist.

I also am slightly sickened with myself that I have a bunch of peonies downstairs and scrolling through IG earlier my suggested feed brought up three pictures of peonies in the first sixteen squares for me.

Re: show off/misbehaving on instagram - I’m a goody goody who loved Ferris Bueller’s Day Off and the tantalising experience of being very naughty by proxy. Instagram etc are often described as turning us into sort of movie stars or characters in the movies of our lives. I think that need to present an image, rather than just live, impacts on the behaviour shown on IG. If nothing else, it’s for novelty’s sake so feed is interesting.

I mean, I know there are teenagers who would muck around in supermarkets just for an audience of their mates (now even better that they can Snapchat it etc ) but I feel like pre-social media, if there was no audience except yourself and your family, non-teenagers wouldn’t tend to do a similar thing? Or maybe they would, and I just never saw it as I wasn’t there at the time!

I said I wouldn’t talk about individuals but here I am being a hypocrite. I’m trying to extrapolate rather than be ‘mean’ however so am not using derogatory words other than ‘misbehave’ or ‘muck about’ which I hope isn’t too much like picking on someone. #disclaimer

Ugh....I've just seen fods stories. There's something horribly entitled about knobbing around in a supermarket in pursuit of looking wacky. Just imagine if it was the family from shameless doing that. But it's ok. He's posh.

'I'm going to put my ten year old in a trolley and film it and show it to a million strangers online.' On what planet is that parenting properly?

FODs stories today hashtag and

In white

On a story where the writing is right over the clouds. Which are also white

Everything else is bolded and obvious. The #ad is trying to be hidden. That's not transparency. Is he embarrassed by the freebie? Or just embarrassed to be advertising? Because trying to hide the hashtag again by blurring it into the background with the colouring so no one sees is implying he is.

If you advertise, hashtag it proud fgs. It's paying you money.

I also dumped MOD/FOD a few months ago but his stories were on the highlights section this morning. He's still a bit cringe. The large child in the trolley just gave me the rage.

He is just so.un.cool

Which he called an ‘early father’s day present TO MYSELF’ earlier in his stories. Sod me being nice and polite - what a dishonest act. I would be concerned about associating myself with someone who misrepresented their dealings if I were a business but hey ho.

It’s only a present to yourself if you actually buy it. I think he thinks he’s being clever and winding people up with the ‘ad’ in white as it’s a criticism that’s been levelled at him before.