To think Mumsnet doesn't hate Instagram influencers?

[jamoncrumpets]

And for prominent influencers who I will not name here for fear of them kicking off and getting the thread pulled to even hint that this might be the case is irresponsible on their part?

SO much gets discussed on MN every day. So much gets criticised. Social media influencers are a new and intriguing phenomenon - why wouldn't they be discussed here? For better or worse?

Many people have supported influencers for the way they earn money. That gets ignored. Many have politely criticised and pointed out ways it could be more ethical. This gets ignored. One or two have made comments that are personal or cross the line, these have been pounced on and discussed publicly.

The 'arguments' die down. People stop caring. Then prominent influencers go and start the whole thing up again.

Blaming MN is just lazy and irresponsible.

Also I watched one IG accounts stories yesterday who was responding the the Mumsnet threads and her whole argument was ‘people are dying and you are moaning about this’

Which I found bizarre and rather ironic coming from someone who chooses to share day to day life stuff on social media.

If we use that analogy then we should ignore everything that isn’t life threatening and not share opinions on anything else

Yes I understand why they would feel the need to do so as well Cady, but as I said MN isn't where the problem lies.

myothernamewasfunnier I agree that if they are transparent they won’t need the additional hashtags.

MP has always tagged gifts in stories, I recall when her second daughter was born pretty much every outfit was tagged as a gift. I remember thinking that’s a lot of gifts but other influencers will receive the same but aren’t honest about declaring it. I wouldn’t question MP about if she paid for something as I see her having the integrity to be upfront if she has. Incidentally her holiday review post was a game changer and I was surprised at how small a discount she got. I think the other larger brands will feel more pressure now to be transparent.

Much as it is received as a gift to the influencer it is product placement /embedded marketing from the brand whose sole intention is free exposure for their product so it absolutely should be highlighted with appropriate hashtags.

"People are dying". Wow. So being concerned about the underhand hawking that certain influencers are displaying on social media means none of us care about people who are dying. Top class argument that one. I think most of us (with two obvious exceptions) have a life outside these threads and care about and have opinions on a range of subjects.

Maybe instead of moaning about it and slagging us off they could see there's a lot of genuine points of discussion here (when you wade through the bickering that's spoilt this thread to be honest). I can only assume the ones moaning about the mumsnet threads are the ones who don't want to be honest.

Spongebob - I actually agree when I think it is daft to say "people are dying" and so therefore shouldn't be worrying about anything else.
There's plenty of other seriously way over invested people in IGers on this thread though, so not sure why you had to throw that little dig in, unless you're wanting to start the sniping up again.
When there's actual discussion, the threads are OK.

SpongeBobGrannyPants that's how I felt. I watched it and the lady was all raised eyebrows/meaningful looks as she danced around and showed pieces of paper addressed to Mumsnet stating that people should only focus on things that make them happy as there are more serious issues in the world such as illness and death.

Yes I have seen some bitchy comments on these threads but I have also seen some really thoughtful discussion raising very valid concerns about some of the practice on IG which is murky and unethical.

It's not personal practise, it's business practise and in the public domain so perfectly reasonable that the general public will scrutinise and critique this.

the lady was all raised eyebrows/meaningful looks as she danced around and showed pieces of paper addressed to Mumsnet stating that people should only focus on things that make them happy as there are more serious issues in the world such as illness and death

Whereas I do think it's daft in a way that of course you can think about other things even if there's sad things in the news, there's actually a good point in there if it was like you said.
People have said that some feeds make them feel inadequatethat they're not good enough, it makes them unhappy etc.
If it makes you (general you) feel like that, you really should step away and do something that makes you happy as it's madness to keep going back to watch something that makes you unhappy.
You (general you) *should focus on doing things that make you happy, instead of trying to put it on the IGers.

I agree @CadyHeron , I think it's perfectly reasonable to say "if it's making you unhappy then why not just step away and concentrate on the good things in your life".

But that message which I've also seen on Instagram isn't from a place of concern about people who feel crap, it's another way of saying "be kind and shut up" and it's all about protecting the instagram revenue stream (from someone with a vested interest in doing so).

Hi CadyHeron

Whereas I do think it's daft in a way that of course you can think about other things even if there's sad things in the news, there's actually a good point in there if it was like you said.

The message was clearly aimed at people 'moaning' not people feeling sad or inadequate.

Different people may view it differently however it came across as smug and patronising to me. The message was that calling people out on unethical behaviour makes them materialistic or unhappy in their lives.

This is what I’m referring to

Excuse my multiple posts figuring out the uploads

Missing the point ✌🏼

Oh god I'm cringing for whatever doosh that is

Good grief, I don’t really know what to say about that. But I’d have probably used some nicer paper.

Who is that?

@EeebyMum it's a lady called kelly_thebeesknees

She's got lots of followers, sells her own line of journals, raises money for charity and goes to the typical IG events etc but I'd never really taken any notice until I saw this.

I find the whole MN v IG very polarising. Most people are on both so why try to shoehorn people into one camp?

Thanks @bawble.

I got to the first photo saw #livingmybestlife and had to stop

I should probably say I am only joking about the paper, there’s a quite a lack of humour on these threads atm, so I better add that.

People are using it as a bandwagon to get more followers I suspect too, hoping like when Mod shared megababe's post, that it would give them some exposure. Completely missing the point though and I don't think they've really read the threads. I've said before but we lowly mumsnet users make up a large proportion of the middle class mum's target audience. Turning on us and saying our discussion isn't valid is just sticking two fingers up to many of their followers.

OK, I actually just watched the MN song. I actually likey.
She has a point lol.
OK, yes people are dying and that doesn't mean that you can't think about other things.
The first half of the message though, pretty spot on! Now got Don't Worry, Be Happy going round my head

You were obviously going to agree though, no surprise there.

@ABuckToothedGirlinLuxembourg. Re Kellythebeesknees, are you aware her mum has Huntington disease?

What a strange question.

@Sofialemon I’m not no, I don’t know who she is, and I’m confused why you’d ask me that? For making a joke about paper? You people really do need to lighten up a bit.

sofialemon why is that relevant?