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To think playgroups shouldn't give out junk food?

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neonyellowshoes · 29/05/2018 15:18

I go to one may be once a fortnight. The standard snack is fruit plus juice (don't agree with the juice) but there is always other shit 'just this once'. Chocolate, cake, iced biscuits today...

This is publicly funded.

It's a nice group but the shit food is putting me off.

Am I being precious?

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neonyellowshoes · 31/05/2018 12:40

Which statement was that?

The point is, publicly funded playgroups should be promoting healthy food. Not shit food.

Stop digging, there's nothing to dig up.

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MiggeldyHiggins · 31/05/2018 12:42

You seem confused OP.

I Will be happily smug and judgemental while DS enjoys ... a lack of childhood onset diabetes

What did you mean by that?

neonyellowshoes · 31/05/2018 12:54

What do you think I meant? Get a dictionary maybe?

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MiggeldyHiggins · 31/05/2018 12:57

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neonyellowshoes · 31/05/2018 13:09

What did I mean then? Or rather, what do you think I meant based on your own prejudices and need for moral superiority?

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 31/05/2018 13:13

To me, it looks as if you are blaming people for getting diabetes, @neonyellowshoes.

neonyellowshoes · 31/05/2018 13:15

Are you drunk or just trolling?

Wasn't it margaret thatcher who said that people who have lost the argument tend to resort to personal attacks? Or something like that.

Don't worry, I'm not going to report you Smile

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tenbob · 31/05/2018 13:16

What do you think I meant? Get a dictionary maybe?

Did you mean that childhood diabetes is somehow linked to eating biscuits?
Because as someone said upthread, it is almost exclusively type 1 in childhood which is an autoimmune disease and has nothing to do with diet

Come on, OP
If you are going to try and convince us you are some health and wellness guru, at lead get some basic facts right...

MiggeldyHiggins · 31/05/2018 13:17

REport me all you like, I've nothing to fear.

You won't say what you meant. Why is that, do you think?

Either you can't remember after that last gin, or you haven't yet thought of something you can pretend you meant. Which is it?

neonyellowshoes · 31/05/2018 13:31

So, you assumed that I meant type 1? Why?

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VivaKondo · 31/05/2018 13:47

Type 1 diabetes is not always a childhood issue but it’s also not the only type of diabetes than children/teenagers can get.

Unfortunately, the number of teens diagnosed with type 2 diabetes has increased dramatically. It doesn’t only affect the ‘obese teenagres’ either. Thee are more and more teenagers who are diagnosed despite being ‘thin’ (but often having abdominal fat).

So yes there is a big issue linked with the food with give to our children. And yes it does affect their health. Maybe not when they 5yo. But already it shows whe they are teenagers.

Besides, it’s also clear that if you want to see adults eating plenty of vegs, not spending their time eating biscuits, crops and sweets, then you need to teach said children that eating those foods isn’t good for you. It starts with saying NO.

Fwiw, retrospectively, I wish I had been stricter with my own dcs.
They are teens now and I have been much stricter than most parents already. But they’ve had fruit juice for breakfast (because it was considered then as part of your 5 a day and good for you. We now know that fruit juice is one of the biggest source of sugar in Children’s diet). They’ve had biscuits for afternoon snack. And sweets from relatives and parties.
My biggest success is to see them having learnt to eat a wide range of food and to be ‘difficult’ With mass processed/crap food. I still think they could have done with less sugar in their diet.

So is it possible to restrict as much as possible the sugar intake (incl biscuits) that children eat? Yes of course it is an so wo as much of an issue as most people seem to think.
Does it mean children are growing up to be craving those sweets etc? Actually no. They can also grow up totally balanced, enjoying so called healthy food (dc2 is a big fan of green salad) as well as the occasional treat.
The mistake imo is how ‘occasional’ is defined.
Occasional isn’t something you eat everyday. It’s something you eat on speacil occasions such as birthdays etc...
Small quantities (esp with sugar) isn’t 5+ biscuits, a packet of crisps, so called healthy cereal for breakfast and a packet of raisins. That would take way way over the recommended allowance for sugar in the day. Small quantities is maybe porridge for breakfast with a bit of sugar/honey/golden syrup. And no biscuits or raisins but fresh fruits or toast with butter (not jam).
Because sugar is already in so many products that we don’t even realise we are eating some (just look at the labels on food).

polkadotpixie · 31/05/2018 13:51

YABU. A biscuit and a glass of juice once a fortnight isn't going to kill him, give him diabetes or make him obese FGS

MiggeldyHiggins · 31/05/2018 13:52

So, you assumed that I meant type 1? Why?

No, the point is the same for 1 or 2.

You still haven't answered.

neonyellowshoes · 31/05/2018 13:55

Answered what? I don't think you know why you're arguing anymore.

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tenbob · 31/05/2018 14:01

OP, it would be a bit more dignified to admit you're wrong rather than slog on with all the aggressive posts today...
You're coming across as a bit... odd

neonyellowshoes · 31/05/2018 14:19

But I'm not wrong....

That's the fundamental problem here.

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MiggeldyHiggins · 31/05/2018 14:23

But you are wrong.

also you can't answer a very simple question. You're coming across as belligerent and not very bright.

Why do you think your child would be fat and diabetic if he eats a biscuit once a fortnight?

neonyellowshoes · 31/05/2018 14:36

Why do you think your child would be fat and diabetic if he eats a biscuit once a fortnight?

I didn't say that though, did I?

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Boredandtired · 31/05/2018 14:43

@neonyellowshoes I would not bother arguing with certain comments they just look argumentative and ridiculous.
At the end of the day, in line with schools and preschools a publicly funded playgroup should probably be falling in line and only offering healthy snacks.
As you well know a biscuit once a fortnight won't cause disbetes.
But it is important that the message is widespread.
Do you remember when schools started going healthy eating and parents were filmed putting happy meals through the school fences...

neonyellowshoes · 31/05/2018 14:51

@Boredandtired

Do you remember when schools started going healthy eating and parents were filmed putting happy meals through the school fences...

Think a few of them are on here

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Maldives2006 · 31/05/2018 14:56

Is this playgroup run by volunteers if so get a grip, these playgroups can be absolute lifelines to Moms and Dads who have no support. Also it’s not arsenic

ILostItInTheEarlyNineties · 31/05/2018 15:01

I think 2 main points of interest stand out here.

  1. As parents we should all be mindful of our children's sugar intake, from whatever source and limit snacks and treats. I think the 100 calorie snack a day campaign is a good one.
Responsibility lies with the parents at this young age.
  1. No one likes smug and self righteous. Grin
lemonsunshinecake · 31/05/2018 15:18

I once witnessed a mum grab a custard cream out of her child's hand at a play session because he had had one the week before. Everyone else was HmmConfused and we're made to feel like shit parents because their kids had all had one the week before too. My son actually had had two. Anyway, despite this awful start in life my son is fine.

MiggeldyHiggins · 31/05/2018 15:19

I didn't say that though, did I?

You did. You can't seem to remember what you said, or why. Are you quite well?

neonyellowshoes · 31/05/2018 15:27

Actually no, I've got a cold.

You're starting to sound like Punch and Judy.

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