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To think playgroups shouldn't give out junk food?

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neonyellowshoes · 29/05/2018 15:18

I go to one may be once a fortnight. The standard snack is fruit plus juice (don't agree with the juice) but there is always other shit 'just this once'. Chocolate, cake, iced biscuits today...

This is publicly funded.

It's a nice group but the shit food is putting me off.

Am I being precious?

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ILostItInTheEarlyNineties · 30/05/2018 22:02

That sounds like a measured approach Monkey.
I just wanted to highlight the shocking amounts of hidden sugars in foods which can lead to parents inadvertently shovelling sugar into their children without realising. Another example might be Shop bought pasta sauce or tomato soup- around 6 spoons of sugar added in. Sad
That's worse really as they are then allowed (what we know as a treat) on top of all that.

And let's see children walking, running or riding a bike to playgroup instead of being strapped into a car seat and ferried as close as possible to the door.

Sorry I've gone a bit off the original thread topic so I won't bang on anymore Grin

Loopyloopy · 30/05/2018 23:10

@themonkeymummy have you actually charted height weight and bmi? If you haven't, you can't say that you don't know any overweight children. It's hard to tell with kids by looking, and so many are overweight these days we can't see it any more.

TheMonkeyMummy · 31/05/2018 07:07

@Loopyloopy stop being pedantic. I lie in Switzerland where there is not an obesity crisis.

HairyToity · 31/05/2018 07:15

Unless you go to a playgroup every day of the week, I think some treat food is fine.

CuntyP0tato · 31/05/2018 10:56

@neonyellowshoes I suggest you Google Type 1 Diabetes before you claim that it is caused be eating the odd biscuit as a treat.

Www.jdrf.co.uk would be a good place to start.

I'd suggest your medical ignorance is a bigger issue than whether they serve biscuits at a playgroup! Angry

CuntyP0tato · 31/05/2018 11:00

Apologies the link is actually jdrf.org.uk but a simple Google search should set you straight on the causes of Type 1 Diabetes (or childhood diabetes as you choose to call it!)

BeyondThePage · 31/05/2018 11:01

Another example might be Shop bought pasta sauce or tomato soup- around 6 spoons of sugar added in.

Alternatively they may be made with actual tomatoes which contain fruit sugars

neonyellowshoes · 31/05/2018 11:04

@CuntyP0tato

I suggest you read the thread Smile

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CuntyP0tato · 31/05/2018 11:35

If you genuinely know the difference as you claim then you would know how important it is to specify which Type you are referring to.

People seem to think it's acceptable to blame children (or adults) for getting 'Diabetes'. If you blamed a child for getting any other potentially life threatening disease there would be absolute uproar and rightly so.

MiggeldyHiggins · 31/05/2018 11:36

Will be happily smug and judgemental while DS enjoys a full set of teeth, normal BMI and a lack of childhood onset diabetes

My DC enjoy all those things without any of us having a conniption over a fucking biscuit!

neonyellowshoes · 31/05/2018 11:55

Sorry Cunty, I don't 'blame' anyone for getting a serious disease; do yo blame people for getting type 2? Do we have 'deserving' and 'non-deserving' diabetes now?

The whole idea is grotesque.

That or you could just admit that you hadn't bothered to read the thread and that you're wrong about me? Otherwise, continue twisting your moral web until you find somewhere more appropriate to direct your indignation.

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Shoeshelpplease · 31/05/2018 12:05

Some of these responses are hilarious.

I am the food police. So many of our Illnesses in the Western World are food related.

We are overfed and malnutritioned.

Why the need to snack? Surely we can get together with our kids for a bit of a play without having to eat. Be it fruit, cakes ... whatever. Presumably we all ate breakfast and can function perfectly well till the next meal without having further sustenance.

ILostItInTheEarlyNineties · 31/05/2018 12:06

Erm you did say that you'd be judgmental of others who had a child with early onset diabetes Neon ! See your bolded quote above.

I'm not sure why you're determined to be right about everything and insult everyone else. A bit of humility wouldn't go amiss. Sad

MiggeldyHiggins · 31/05/2018 12:08

Sorry Cunty, I don't 'blame' anyone for getting a serious disease; do yo blame people for getting type 2? Do we have 'deserving' and 'non-deserving' diabetes now? The whole idea is grotesque

So can you explain what you meant then by Will be happily smug and judgemental while DS enjoys ... a lack of childhood onset diabetes ?

neonyellowshoes · 31/05/2018 12:10

And where does it say that?

This thread is about a playgroup. Not parents, a playgroup.

Fascinating from an anthropological perspective how desperate people are to hang me, for questioning the need to feed kids shit food.

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Kaykay06 · 31/05/2018 12:13

So once every 2 weeks you don’t want to give your kid the food, nowt wrong with the odd choccie biscuit or cake but take your own snack and ask for water and chill out or don’t go,

MiggeldyHiggins · 31/05/2018 12:15

So, you can't explain what you meant by it then?

MiggeldyHiggins · 31/05/2018 12:16

Don't worry about it, you don't need to. We all know exactly what you meant, as do you.

neonyellowshoes · 31/05/2018 12:19

That's ok then.

I'm horrible and you're lovely.

Smile
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MiggeldyHiggins · 31/05/2018 12:19

I am, but thats not the point.

Just own what you said and stop with all this bollocks.

neonyellowshoes · 31/05/2018 12:29

Why?

Why this desperation to make me the bad guy?

It really quite mad!

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MiggeldyHiggins · 31/05/2018 12:30

No desperation, no making the bad guy. Why so dramatic?

You made a statement and then pretended you said no such thing and that it was grotesque. Why did you do that?

UpUrm · 31/05/2018 12:32

Have a nice box of mcnuggets and relax OP.

ILostItInTheEarlyNineties · 31/05/2018 12:33

I don't want to hang you Neon there's nothing wrong with the basis of your views. Being so rigid and black and white about foods is the issue really.
I'd be interested if your views are so rigid when your child has grown up. Come back to me in 17 years. Grin

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 31/05/2018 12:35

I said - "...there are some foods that should only be eaten in moderation, and occasionally. Learning that is vital - and in my opinion, it would help combat obesity."

@GrandmasterGlitchBitch - "People know that. They know what they should and shouldn't be eating. So why aren't they doing it? It isn't lack of knowledge."

@GrandmasterGlitchBitch - I agree, it is not lack of knowledge - it is to do with learned habits - so my point is that children need to learn what makes up a balanced diet, and how you can include foods such as the odd biscuit or chocolate - and children don't learn that when parents are too restrictive about such foods.

When a food group is completely banned, there is the risk of it becoming far more attractive than if it is a normal part of a balanced diet - and when children get older, and have both money in their pockets and easier access to the shops, they can binge on the things that they weren't allowed when they were younger.

I am a living case-in-point - my parents were very restrictive about food, and especially about things like sweets, and when I was at Sixth Form and had a Saturday job, and even more when I left home and was working as a student nurse, I ate far too much of everything, especially the sweet/treat stuff, and piled on the weight.

Of course I am not saying that a preschooler has the knowledge or experience to decide their own diet - but they will be picking up their parents' attitude towards food, so if the parents have a sensible, balanced attitude, the children will learn that - and as they get older, they can be given more responsibility.

One thing that I wish had been a 'thing' when I was at school - or even when the dses were - is the 'daily mile' that some schools do now - it started at a Scottish school. Every day, rain or shine, the children run or walk for half an hour - they don't all do a mile, but I guess that's the average - and in the school that started it, after a year, they had no children who were obese - which is amazing. It is so easy to do - they don't do it in PE gear, just normal uniform and shoes, and coats if necessary. Every school should do it.

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