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My NDN and Parking

288 replies

MrsDylanBlue · 28/05/2018 21:58

My NDN moved in a few months ago, I have seen them in the street and almost forced them to say hello - fine whatever I respect the fact they may want to keep themselves to themselves.

We have no ORP and it is an issue in our road and we get people from neighbouring streets also parking here.

NDN have a very tiny driveway which they sometimes park one of their three cars on (I have a small car and DH has a car but is only here on weekends).

When the NDN drive is empty (it’s a drop curb with no gate) we have always parked over it as sometimes there is just nowhere else to park.

Outside our houses (they are semi detached) there is enough space for two cars on the road, quite often they have taken to not leaving me enough room to fit my car on (and not block my elderly neighbours in the other side) and then moved forward when someone else has arrived home so monopolising all the off road parking directly outside the houses.

Last weekend DH parked slightly over their drive and they left a shitty note on his car. He went round and spoke to the lady and said just knock don’t leave a note and please could you just leave my wife enough space to park in the week, after all we have one car you have three.

This weekend they have taken up all the parking directly outside the houses meaning I have had to trek up and down the road with my weeks shopping and when we went Kayacking it was not greatly convinuent carrying them down the road to put on the roof of the car.

Do I go round again and appeal to their better nature or do I start parking my car in the middle of the two spaces to make a point - starting a potential war which I will probably lose as I have less cars than them Grin

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trixymalixy · 28/05/2018 22:51

YABVVVVU

Teggun · 28/05/2018 22:51

CheekyFuckery isn't limited to things that are illegal though is it AskAuntLydia? And as the Highway code indicates, it is expected that you don't park across someone's drive. There is no such expectation that a neighbour will leave a space outside someone else's house.

Celebelly · 28/05/2018 22:51

Eh? You can't just park over someone's driveway!

Look, I get it, it's annoying if you've always parked in X space and now you can't. But unfortunately you bought a house that doesn't come with parking and you have to deal with it. When I lived in a flat years ago I sometimes had to park two streets away! I'm sure it's annoying but you don't have any right to park on a public street outside your house. Someone who doesn't even live in your road could park there if they wanted and there's nothing you can do other than suck it up and use your legs.

MrsDylanBlue · 28/05/2018 22:51

SimonBridges

You bought up the renting/owning.

I couldn’t give a shit if they rent or own.

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londonrach · 28/05/2018 22:52

Op...if you block the public highway with cones the police can fine you and remove the cones. Youve bought this parking war on yourself.

MrsDylanBlue · 28/05/2018 22:54

Omg - I have never said I use cones!

Why can’t people read.

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Mummyduck10 · 28/05/2018 22:54

Actually I double checked with my local council and the police. You can park in front of a drop curb/drive if there is no line and as long as the drive is empty. It's a bit ignorant but there's nothing that can be done i know this because I have a drive with a drop curb and my dn keep parking In front before i get home so i just park on the street I asked the council and rang 111 just to check and they said my dn could legally do this and I just have to wait for them to move it's only an offence if someone blocks my access to the highway.

Teggun · 28/05/2018 22:55

TBH MrsDylanBlue, I would be irritated by people not using their drive if parking is so limited, but your attitude was so outrageous that perhaps the new neighbours are either fearful or pissed off wth you.

LexieLulu · 28/05/2018 22:55

Park over their drive? Knock and ask to swap places 😂

humphreysabout · 28/05/2018 22:56

We just thought after having that conversation where she even said that she was happy for us to park over the drop to and they would try to be considerate they have then proceeded to do the opposite.

So you expected them to allow you to block their drive AND not to park on the road outside your house.

Unbelievable.

C0untDucku1a · 28/05/2018 22:57

I feel this thread is going around in circles, but i still want to comment.

  1. Pay for your own dripped kerb and drive.
  2. Penguin bollard.
  3. Where the af is the diagram?!
MrsDylanBlue · 28/05/2018 22:57

Mummyduck10

Yes you are correct.

Although I don’t do out since I have been asked not to even though everyone on this thread is choosing not see that.

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AmazingGrace16 · 28/05/2018 22:58

OP you sound like a dick.
The issue of whether they should leave you a space outside your house or not; why should they?! it's not private property and it's first come first served. That's the way it works up and down the country. Everyone else deals with it but doesn't demand they have the space outside their house!
We had someone lay cones out and unfortunately this pissed the neighbours off royally who do the right thing. Highways were called and involved confirming the cone people were being selfish idiots.
Just because you've been able to park there for ages does not mean you are entitled to do so at your very say so.

FreudianSlurp · 28/05/2018 22:59

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MrsDylanBlue · 28/05/2018 22:59

As soon as there was an issue (when DH parked over their drop all three of their cars were already on the road) we went round to talk to them.

Each explained our circumstances etc.

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CluedoAddict · 28/05/2018 23:00

You shouldn't have needed to be asked in the first place. You sound like you think you are doing them a favour.

ObiJuanKenobi · 28/05/2018 23:01

Is this a reverse? In which case wow what an entitled twat, if it's not then hey - the same applies Biscuit

You are being a complete arse about this and your responses are just reinforcing that - why did you post just to argue with everyone telling you that you are being unreasonable and just keep repeating the same points?

A public unrestricted road is first come first served and that's that. Your comment about permits is also ill thought out - they'll be able to apply for permits and park there the same as you would - they're residents too - even if they're renting it's still their home.

Mummyduck10 · 28/05/2018 23:02

Parking is a hideous thing I dont let it upset me its not worth it if I have to walk up the road a bit to get to my house so be it i just make sure I time weekly shops when my dn are at work so at the very least I can use the drive to unload my shopping as long as I can do that once a week i dont really care I know how bad parking is not just for me but for everyone else on my street I'm more disgusted for the people that should have assigned disabled spaces but haven't been given then that makes me so cross poor people.

NotMyFinestMoment · 28/05/2018 23:02

It matters not whether they own or rent it. It is on their property. Not yours. You are in the wrong, they are not. You appear to be bogged down by the smaller details and completely missing the bigger picture. You have no right to obstruct or park over their drive. You are in the wrong and should apologise. They can't save you a space on a public road, simply because it's a public road and they have no say in the matter of who parks where. Perhaps if they were always able to actually access their own driveway from when they first moved in (and which they are paying their landlord for the benefit of using), they might have been inspired to actually use it. The other thing is, it is their drive, it is their perogative as to whether or not they use it as even with the drive they are still entitled to park their cars on the street. Even if they choose never to use the drive again, you have no right to park there or obstruct it. What you may or may not have done historically is irrelevant.

Mummyduck10 · 28/05/2018 23:03

I'm in Devon rules are probably different.

AmazingGrace16 · 28/05/2018 23:03

I think the problem lies with the fact you blocked their drive in the first place. regardless of legality it's incredibly rude. They will have formed a judgement of someone who thinks its ok to block private property pegging you as someone who doesn't care for them at all and only thinks of themselves
You painted yourself out to be like that through how you chose to behave.
If you want your neighbours to do you a favour you have a lot of making up to do.

SimonBridges · 28/05/2018 23:04

You bought up the renting/owning

No. I said that the own the drive. You brought up that they rent.

It doesn’t matter if it’s legal to park over they drive or not. It is a rude and dickish thing to do.
It’s not illegal for some to knock on your door at 3 am, but it’s rude and annoying.

Just because something isn’t illegal it doesn’t make it ok.

ObiJuanKenobi · 28/05/2018 23:05

The Highway Code is pretty clear about parking over the dropped kerb / entrance to a property

Rule 243
DO NOT stop or park:
• near a school entrance
• anywhere you would prevent access for Emergency Services
• at or near a bus or tram stop or taxi rank
• on the approach to a level crossing/tramway crossing
• opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space
• near the brow of a hill or hump bridge
• opposite a traffic island or (if this would cause an obstruction) another parked vehicle
• where you would force other traffic to enter a tram lane
• where the kerb has been lowered to help wheelchair users and powered mobility vehicles
• in front of an entrance to a property
• on a bend
• where you would obstruct cyclists’ use of cycle facilities

ChickenVindaloo2 · 28/05/2018 23:05

You're upset they left a note on your car rather than speaking to you?

OP, you really, really don't want to know what I would have left on your car if you had parked over my driveway.

m0therofdragons · 28/05/2018 23:05

Public road they can park where they like although it's annoying when people park badly and take 2 spaces you really can't live your life stressing about it or you'll end up like my mil!

You shouldn't park over their driveway. You bought a house with no driveway and they rent one with a driveway. Simple.

We have space for one car on our driveway so dh parks his round the corner out of our busy small road because we're thoughtful. It's the compromise we made for a house we love in every other way.

I can't stand pettiness over parking and the attitude that you've done it with previous residents so why do new people hate me acting like a dick?