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My NDN and Parking

288 replies

MrsDylanBlue · 28/05/2018 21:58

My NDN moved in a few months ago, I have seen them in the street and almost forced them to say hello - fine whatever I respect the fact they may want to keep themselves to themselves.

We have no ORP and it is an issue in our road and we get people from neighbouring streets also parking here.

NDN have a very tiny driveway which they sometimes park one of their three cars on (I have a small car and DH has a car but is only here on weekends).

When the NDN drive is empty (it’s a drop curb with no gate) we have always parked over it as sometimes there is just nowhere else to park.

Outside our houses (they are semi detached) there is enough space for two cars on the road, quite often they have taken to not leaving me enough room to fit my car on (and not block my elderly neighbours in the other side) and then moved forward when someone else has arrived home so monopolising all the off road parking directly outside the houses.

Last weekend DH parked slightly over their drive and they left a shitty note on his car. He went round and spoke to the lady and said just knock don’t leave a note and please could you just leave my wife enough space to park in the week, after all we have one car you have three.

This weekend they have taken up all the parking directly outside the houses meaning I have had to trek up and down the road with my weeks shopping and when we went Kayacking it was not greatly convinuent carrying them down the road to put on the roof of the car.

Do I go round again and appeal to their better nature or do I start parking my car in the middle of the two spaces to make a point - starting a potential war which I will probably lose as I have less cars than them Grin

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MrsDylanBlue · 28/05/2018 22:17

They left a note and we went round and apologised.

You can actually park ON someone’s driveway.

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MrsDylanBlue · 28/05/2018 22:17

Not that I would obviously.

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NotMyFinestMoment · 28/05/2018 22:19

Tbh, if it's a public road, it's first come first served. None of you have any particular right to park there, other than whoever got there first. You shouldn't be obstructing your neighbours drive by parking in front of it.

"The Highway Code

Rule 243
DO NOT stop or park:

near a school entrance

anywhere you would prevent access for Emergency Services

at or near a bus or tram stop or taxi rank

on the approach to a level crossing/tramway crossing

opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space

near the brow of a hill or hump bridge
opposite a traffic island or (if this would cause an obstruction) another parked vehicle

where you would force other traffic to enter a tram lane

where the kerb has been lowered to help wheelchair users and powered mobility vehicles

in front of an entrance to a property

on a bend

where you would obstruct cyclists’ use of cycle facilities except when forced to do so by stationary traffic."

In the real world, your neighbours would be a little more considerate given that they have 3 cars, however, you appear to be in the wrong by even partially blocking their drive.

Where I live it is a nightmare trying to park. My preferred spot in respect of ORP is in front of a bungalow opposite my home. My neighbour hasn't been there for months as he's in a respite home. I would still never dream of blocking his drive by even partially obstructing the dropped curb leading to his driveway.

CluedoAddict · 28/05/2018 22:19

Parking on the drive or over it achieves the same aim - the owner cannot use it. You are unbelievable.

Iluvthe80s · 28/05/2018 22:21

Yabvu you shouldn't park in front of someones driveway. That is all

FittonTower · 28/05/2018 22:23

We live on a road with very little parking, terrace houses and shops and schools near by so its always busy. Its a pain but it's just how it is. You can't park over a drive and you can't expect to always have a place to park outside your house. It is annoying living in a place where sometimes you have to park a street or two away but it's just what its like some places.
When we move i think we'll choose a house with a drive. I dream of a drive.....

siwel123 · 28/05/2018 22:23

YABU.

SmashedMug · 28/05/2018 22:24

AIBU?

Yes.

NO IM NOT WAAAAAAH.

MrsDylanBlue · 28/05/2018 22:24

Its not really a drive as such and everyone who has ever lived there has rarely used it as it’s tiny and narrow and difficult to get a car on it without over hanging the pavement.

I am not suggesting we should be able to park over their drive and it’s probably force of habit.

We just thought after having that conversation where she even said that she was happy for us to park over the drop to and they would try to be considerate they have then proceeded to do the opposite.

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llangennith · 28/05/2018 22:27

Move somewhere where there’s loads of places to park as it’s such a problem for you.

donquixotedelamancha · 28/05/2018 22:27

there is no law against parking over an empty drive
You can actually park ON someone’s driveway.

No, you can't. What you mean is: it's a civil matter and thus inconveniences people to enforce it. You are confusing not being against criminal law with not being against the law- despite someone already having posted a relevant link.

Your NDN might be wimps who decide it's too much hassle to take civil action against your bullying; or they might be nutters who decide to take very direct action and assume you won't be able to prove anything. This is the risk you bear when you choose to treat people like shit.

Whatever you decide, I don't understand why you keep up with silly justifications- surely no-one is stupid enough to think they have the right to block another person's drive?

MrsDylanBlue · 28/05/2018 22:28

We haven’t parked there since the note incident.

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Teggun · 28/05/2018 22:28

Are you related to the old lady who parked in a mner's drive this weekend because " the nice doctor who used to live here never minded" ..??!!
Your logic and attitude are weird. Your ndns have done nothing wrong.

ICantCopeAnymore · 28/05/2018 22:29

YABVU.

MrsDylanBlue · 28/05/2018 22:31

They asked us not to park over the drop we apologised and said we wouldn’t and haven’t.

We asked them where possible if they could leave us a small space free outside our house. They have not.

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IrregularCommentary · 28/05/2018 22:32

No, you can't park on a dropped kerb, yes you are being unreasonable.

I get that not having reserved parking/a driveway is a ballache, but that's not your neighbours' problem.

Maelstrop · 28/05/2018 22:34

We asked them where possible if they could leave us a small space free outside our house. They have not.

I get that it’s annoying, but they don’t have to, so why should they? This is why I deliberately bought a house with a double drive, 2 cars in my household and I don’t want to be scrabbling to get shopping or dogs in.

londonrach · 28/05/2018 22:36

Love to see your neighbours mn aibu take on this.... "just moved into new house and ndn is parking across our driveway with a dropped kerb aibu to park in front of their house in such away to stop this happening (diagram included as per mn rules)" Aibu op and bought this on yourself re your parking behaviour. Apologise to your neighbours! Yabu.

Myneighboursnorlax · 28/05/2018 22:36

You still seem to be thinking you’re doing them a favour by not parking over their drive, and that they should return the favour by leaving you a space.
While it would be nice if they left you a space, they are not obligated to. You are not allowed to park over their drive regardless of whether they leave you a space or not. I feel sorry for your poor neighbours. They must be regretting moving in already.

RavenLG · 28/05/2018 22:37

We asked them where possible if they could leave us a small space free outside our house. They have not

It's a public road, they have absolutely NO obligation to do this. Even if it meant you parking 5 streets away. What are you struggling to understand about this situation?

Yes, it's not very neighbourly, but they're doing nothing wrong and probably sick of you parking over their drive.

MumofBoysx2 · 28/05/2018 22:38

You are in the wrong, parking across their drive and then complaining if they nab spaces in the road before you. Unfortunately there isn't anything you can do about it, and I would say that good neighbour relations are more important than parking right outside your house so I would probably go round and apologise if it were me, try to put things back on the right footing.

starzig · 28/05/2018 22:38

I always think to myself 'well it's good exercise' as a haul my shopping from Timbuktu. Anytime after 8pm you ain't got a hope near my house.

SimonBridges · 28/05/2018 22:38

When the NDN drive is empty (it’s a drop curb with no gate) we have always parked over it as sometimes there is just nowhere else to park.

You can’t park over someone else’s drive because there is nowhere else to park. That isn’t a place to park. And just because the last people let you do it it doesn’t mean you can now.

MrsDylanBlue · 28/05/2018 22:38

We have no room for a drive. We just would like to be able to park where we have always parked - outside our house.

I get it’s dog eat dog - but when you have had a conversation with NDNs and asked for them to leave us a space (rather than watching me lug loads of shopping up the street today) and manovering cars around to “save” themselves both spaces that’s a bit mean.

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honeylulu · 28/05/2018 22:39

Pay for your own dropped kerb. Simples.

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