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To tell DH he is pronouncing DD’s name wrong.

534 replies

DuchessOfNorfolk · 27/05/2018 08:59

DD is mainly known as a shortening of her name. Occasionally we call her the full versio. However I have noticed DH pronounces it in a different way to how I have ever heard it pronounced. I assumed there was just one pronunciation of it. I’m wondering if it would be reasonable to point it out? Or do I just live with it.

OP posts:
Ineke · 29/05/2018 03:22

The je being soft as in the French Je

SoyDora · 29/05/2018 07:09

You are the only one mocking accents on here, MrsSarahSiddons. Telling ‘southeners’ (and as I pointed out, I’m not southern in the slightest) that they are turning their children into poor spellers, not helping them with learning to spell and confusing everyone by not pronouncing an ‘r’

clarkl2 · 29/05/2018 08:22

Geekyw....... "my dad is forrin"...... more offended by that than this entire post.

SleepingStandingUp · 29/05/2018 08:39

Middle can you say r your southerner? How do you say southerner? And Rebecci? And ,Karl? and Mark and Tyler and Aaron?

TheOriginalEmu can you spell the pronunciation of poor, paw, pour, pore please?

Daisymaybe60 · 29/05/2018 08:58

The posters who went to school in the sixties like me and only remember the Elean-uh pronunciation have forgotten Lindisfarne. "And in walked Lord Borgasha (?) with the Lady Elean-or." I believe they rhymed it with "power driven saw". It also rhymes with "they don't write lyrics like that any more". Grin

MiddleClassProblem · 29/05/2018 09:13

SleepingStandingUp which r in southerner do I pronounce? I can’t say the R in Rebecci. Or in Jarrod. It’s Jaod Ebecci.
If I say the r in Karl I would like Rick Grimes...

Seahorse146 · 29/05/2018 09:19

Maybe we should all make a video like this one:

I don't know if these pronunciations make you want to laugh or cry!

SleepingStandingUp · 29/05/2018 09:33

MiddleClassProblem Both r's please

MrsSarahSiddons · 29/05/2018 09:51

Watch this pronunciation teacher as he fully defines "British English" as "Southern English". He makes these (very popular) videos for foreign learners of English, encouraging them to use glottal stops at the end of words and so on.

liz70 · 29/05/2018 09:54

I'm from NW England. I only pronounce rs at the beginning of a word, or in the middle of a word if they are followed by a noun. So no emphasising the r at the end of a word, nor in the middle if it's followed by a consonant.
So I would say:
suth/uh/nuh
Reh/beh/kuh
Kahl to rhyme with car
Mahk ditto above
T/eye/luh
Airon

Pronouncing the rs when I don't do so naturally would sound very fake coming from my mouth. I have no problems spelling - you don't learn to spell correctly from speech, otherwise everyone from Tyneside would spell e.g. "skirt" as "skort". Spelling is best learned from prolific reading of correctly spelled literature, so that the words, in their correct written form, are drilled into your brain, because you've seen them so many times. Of course, an understanding of the etymology of words also helps. E.g. how many times do you see "definate"? Obviously, if you know that definite, finish, finite, infinite etc. all have the same root, then it's impossible to spell "definite" incorrectly.

liz70 · 29/05/2018 09:57

"I find it funny the way Princess Eugenie's name is pronounced like "you genie". Where I come from it is pronounced urr je knee."

I say it as You/zhay/nee.

RedDwarves · 29/05/2018 10:11

Eugenie is you-genie according to the interview they did about her engagement/proposal.

liz70 · 29/05/2018 10:12

Well, they're saying it wrong, then, aren't they. Wink Grin

Grandma2002 · 29/05/2018 10:24

Has your DD noticed or commented or is she too young? Has anyone else in the family noticed? If not, it shouldn't be an issue.

derxa · 29/05/2018 10:40

This thread is doing my head in.
I'm Scottish so in theory have a rhotic accent.
However the r I use is not a trilled or uvular r a la Fraser in Dad's Army.
It's an approximant which is closer to a vowel sound.

My pronunciation of 'car' has a different vowel sound to a SE speaker but my tongue doesn't touch my hard palate when producing the r sound.
Saying Jess-ca sounds more natural than saying Jess-i-ca with equal stress on each syllable. And breathe...

Ankorna · 29/05/2018 10:46

I say Jess-Ca and Beth-Nee. Also sometimes Ab-gale

Minionoftheantichrist · 29/05/2018 10:51

My name is Jessica. I’m in my late 50s. In that time no one from any part of this country have ever called me Jessca. Friends of my overseas relatives, who have a completely different frame of reference for pronunciation, have never called me Jessca either.

You need to talk to him about this. He’s her father. He should be know how his daughter’s name is correctly pronounced if anyone should.

liz70 · 29/05/2018 10:52

I say Jess/uh/cuh, Beth/uh/nee and Ab/ih/gayl, but the middle part in each name is said very quickly and contracted, so it's more like a half sylllable than a full one.

Ankorna · 29/05/2018 10:57

@Liz70

I think that's basically what I do but sometimes the syllable almost disappears if I'm speaking quickly and it sounds like it's not there

JessieMcJessie · 29/05/2018 11:13

Funnily enough I have often had the opposite problem, with people (particularly Scottish people and children) adding an extra syllable to my name- it is Ashleigh but many people including my own brother call me Ash-a-lee.

amusedbush · 29/05/2018 16:21

I'm Scottish so in theory have a rhotic accent [...] saying Jess-ca sounds more natural than saying Jess-i-ca with equal stress on each syllable. And breathe...

My name is Jessica, I'm Scottish and it's DEFINITELY Jess-i-ca. Not Jess-ca. I've never been called Jess-ca in my life.

liz70 · 29/05/2018 16:27

"saying Jess-i-ca with equal stress on each syllable."

There isn't equal stress on each syllable, though, not usually. In my case, it's said Jess/uh/cuh, with the middle syllable contracted till it's barely sounded, as I mentioned previously. It's still there, though.

derxa · 29/05/2018 16:43

There isn't equal stress on each syllable, though, not usually. In my case, it's said Jess/uh/cuh, with the middle syllable contracted till it's barely sounded, as I mentioned previously. It's still there, though.
Gosh. I know that. I guess my five years training in linguistics and phonetics and 17 years practice as a SALT hasn't gone to waste then.
Wink

liz70 · 29/05/2018 17:00

Wot/evuh, derxa.

derxa · 29/05/2018 17:27
Grin