To want to do a drastic diet?

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I have gained huge amounts of weight over the last two years and am now nearly 15stone.

At my height, that’s pretty large and I’m very depressed.

Wondering about doing a liquid/shake diet. Any views?

Look, the OP didn’t come here for advice, she came here for...

Actually, I have no idea why she posted in AIBU. 😂

They need a topic for: Just keep your opinions to yourselves and agree with me.

I suspect it would be very popular.

Exante. 50% sale this weekend and you'll lose a stone a month.

Cheap as chips..

Fatball - Joe Wicks' mantra is "you can't out train a bad diet" - so true! But you can use exercise to raise your metabolism, increase endorphins and if you can get outside, the mental health benefits of a walk or run are huge. Weight loss initially is incidental. If you can slowly build up to a run you can burn a lot of calories once you get going.

Dieting is about patience more than ANYTHING.

It's about dieting today not for tomorrow but for the future you.

It's about dealing with dieting but not seeing huge results because it's gradual and psychologically dealing with the impatience.

"The time will pass anyway"

To be fair, OP does have a point in that despite being very clear about what she was asking, people have ignored her actual question.

Why is anybody bothering to help the OP?

As can be seen above people have very different views on this. however I suspect we all agree on one thing - eat fewer calories than you expend and you will lose weight (and usually it comes form food - I am not saying exercise is bad for you at all of course but very few people lose weight just from that unless they are lugging sledges through the Artics requiring 5000 a day to be expended).

So look at what works for you but remember even if you eat nothing at all (and you'd die doing that) you only lose a pound for every 3,500 calorie deficit so fif you need saty 1800 or 2000 calories a day to say the same weight even if you eat nothing at all you are not going to lose 10 pounds a week or anything radical like that.

If you want to go low calories plenty of people think intermittent fasting is natural and healthy as do many doctors. The newcastle study on diabetes also found 800 calories a day (not for the faint hearted) worked well.

Perhaps try no food other than your tea or coffee without milk or sugar until a late lunch as your main meal = make that meal loads of good fats, veg and fish and then later either eat nothing or just salad.

I did the Exante diet. Ended up chucking half a box full of shakes and bars away as they’re so horrible.

Slimfast shakes are more expensive but far nicer.

I’m doing the 5:2 diet along with starting the gym 3 times a week. I’m in week 3 and I’ve lost 10lbs.

I got a referral from my doctor and the gym is on massively reduced cost £20 a month which includes swimming, exercise classes such as Zumba, Yoga, Spinning. For me I need to be doing it a few months before I will start classes as I want to get into the habit of gym before increasing what I do.

Might be worth asking your doctor if you can get a referral

They need a topic for: Just keep your opinions to yourselves and agree with me.

I suspect it would be very popular.

This really made me laugh 🤣 @Shadow666

You could watch the sun, do yoga and eat the air. You may also be the messiah of you do this.

I watched Fat Sick and Nearly Dead. A lot of what was on the programme resounded with me. I was about a stone more than you and short as well.

I bought the juicer in the programme and did a big juice in the morning and another big juice in the evening.

At first I was starving but the first day I lost 4lbs. I have never lost 4 lbs in a week before.
Every diet I have been on before I have had to do it for about 2 -6 weeks before I lost any weight then if I wobbled I could put on 4 lbs in a day so it could take another 2 weeks to lose the weight. In the end it is so slow that I get bored and gave up.

I lost 10lbs in my first week and more noticeably my waist had gone down from 46" to 39" . I seem to be losing about 5lbs per week and not actually missing eating. Week 4 starts tomorrow. Nearly lost 1.5 stone in 3 weeks.
The biggest issue. Not chewing. In the run up to properly starting I would start the day on a juice then go to midday before I ate then 1pm, 2pm etc till I felt confident to go without eating. It took about a week.

I know it might not be for everyone but there is no cooking involved and also for.me I have arthritis and I think a problem with my thyroid so have tailored my juices to help with these things.

At the end you have to replace juices with salads and work from there.

OP - try the ‘Michael Mosley Blood Sugar Diet’ - not really a diet - more a healthy way of eating, but it’s really, really effective.
I first looked into it for my very good friend who had gained an enormous amount of weight and was seriously depressed, unmotivated and begged me to help her. She’s lost 8 and a bit stone since last autumn.
All the recipes etc are online - or the book is available on Amazon ( prime - next day delivery). V easy to incorporate into every day life and to stick to ‘for life’. It’s a high protein, high (good) fat, v v low carb healthy eating lifestyle...diet is definitely the wrong word. You won’t be hungry or bored - and the results are unbelievably fast. I have since recommended this eating plan to so many people ...one of whom was seriously obese and has recently lost over 3 stone in 8 weeks, and is still losing. Others have easily lost 2 plus stone in the 8 week period. It’s incredible. I also think it’s much healthier than the shake diets because instead of talking all solid food ‘away’ - you’re actually just eating much more mindfully and the recipes are delicious and healthy! Look it up online. Good luck OP

In case this is useful for anyone who does genuinely want to lose weight and is interested in different options.....

I have done pretty much every diet and often lost weight only to put it on as I get older and my metabolism grinds to a halt.

My GP recommended a low fat diet. Bizarrely this is not something I had really considered before. I have found it really easy and the weight is just dropping off me. I am losing about 3lbs a week.

I do honestly believe that different diets work for different people.

OP it is petulant to ask people for advice and then be snarky about every piece of advice that is offered by well meaning posters.

My friend lost loads of weight on Lighter Life VLC but ended up having to have a major bowel operation as a result.

Wow Oliversmum that’s amazing!
Keep going!!
I’ve heard good things about the ‘Fat Sick and Nearly Dead’ juicing too...

Have a look at Huel - I drink it but there is no way I could live on it and nothing else. Shakes leave you feeling so unfulfilled if you have nothing else in your diet.

In my opinion the best thing you can do to lose weight is exercise, cut out alcohol and massively reduce your sugar intake.

At the end of the day it takes sheer willpower and determination. I get that it's hard to start when you're so overweight. I'm two stone overweight at 11.5 stone but everyone has to start somewhere.

Small steps in the beginning. As others have said, go for a walk every day to start with. If you don't want to walk in public, get on a treadmill at the gym. Nobody will bat an eyelid. Get a Pilates or exercise DVD that you can do from home. The beginning is so hard but you simply have to get into the habit of exercising otherwise the weight loss won't be sustainable.

To be fair, OP does have a point in that despite being very clear about what she was asking, people have ignored her actual question.

Yes. I can see why that'd be frustrating. But - if you made a suggestion and 30,000 people immediately started making alternative suggestions, wouldn't a small part of you begin to wonder if your original suggestion had maybe been a bit shit?

Like when you get changed to go out, and think your new outfit looks amazing, but your lovely friends and family all gently suggest you wear a completely different outfit. You don't think, "Sod you, jealous bitches! I'm in this ruffled fuchsia M&S dress all night!" You think, "Oops" and get changed.

Exercise does make a difference over time - I don’t count calories and eat a lot (but am vegan, so most of it is very healthy with only the odd handful of crisps now and again and I do eat bread/pasta/carbs in general) but have slimmed down considerably over the last year just doing (quite a lot of) yoga and walking my dog. In terms of actual weight loss I’ve only lost around a stone, but I am a lot slimmer than I previously was at the same weight. I am looking quite toned and have muscley arms - a huge achievement for me as I’ve always had bingo wings, even when I was very young.

Op - you really have to be prepared to make permanent lifestyle changes - quick fixes don’t work. I didn’t lose weight until I decided to focus on my health, rather than weight loss - I have lost weight, albeit very slowly, but the positive impact on my health has been really significant.

When I wanted to lose weight this is what I did:

I worked out how many calories on average I was eating a day over the course of a week. This was my starting point. I wrote it down in a notepad.

I then decided to deduct 500 calories from it each day. So that was cutting out something like a kitkat and a sandwich. Or a kitkat and a calorific drink.

So I had a deficit each week of 3500 to lose 1lb. But you can tailor this however you want, I've done it at points with a deficit of 1000 a day which led to very fast weight loss.

On this, I was hungry, I didn't sleep that well and I was grumpy and emotionally wrecked but it worked.

I did no exercise. For me this was the key - exercise made me hungry and eat more.

I also paid attention to the calories on packets. Eg, a meal deal. You can make one of a bottle of water, some light crisps like French Fries and a 250 calorie prawn and light bread sandwich, which adds up to about 350 calories total. Or you can make one out of a sugary drink, calorie heavy crisps and a BLT or whatever and you're looking at more like 600-800 calories for one meal.

I also cut out all alcohol and any drinks that weren't water or diet drinks. So zero calories coming in from fluid, apart from special occasions. That made a big difference.

The weight fell off really fast.

OP I've got to warn you. If you do a drastic diet you will feel awful. But I think you know this, and you feel so bad anyway you want to take the risk. Good luck.

I'd say make sure you space you food out.

Eating less and moving more is how I lost weight. 17kg in a few months and I'm still losing. My cal intake is low and I exercise 7/6 days.

designed to fail so you keep buying the sugar shakes! thats the actual purpose of the diet industry, there is no cash in one off success. so they market as the 'diet that works every time' which is of course failure every time.

you wil note the lack of adverts for normal food - veg, carbs, protein, good fat, etc. remember - adverts are to sell crap.

Op I’m sorry but you are making excuses, I know, I’ve made them all myself in the past. I have tried every single diet possible!

Cambridge diet gave me a quick fix but I didn’t lose loads and it wasent sustainable, I put all the weight and more back on.

I started at 18 stone, in one year with SW and walking 30-60mins 3-4 times a week, I am now 11 stone.

I will follow the SW diet for the rest of my life but that’s really easy to do and when I’m at target (1 stone to go!) I will be able to relax it a little.

So for somebody 15 stone that could be you in 6 months easily which I think is a pretty quick fix!

(Also, I can’t cook so managed this wiyhout too much actual cooking!)

Why did u even ask for advice if you slate everything suggested stay fat then

Is there really not a thread on MN that doesn't go off the rails. I'd have thought dieting advice would be safe and calm ground.

Anyway OP - any diet works. The key is to stick to it. Just eat healthier at a reduced calorie rate.

Try low carb, OP.