Instamums in the Telegraph

[caperberries]

Is there a new thread about this?

It was a very difficult book to discuss with it putting a foot in it, I would imagine.

I haven’t read that book. Even in the anonymity of my MN account I would hesitate to discuss some things which aren’t racial prejudice or preconceptions but are the corollary of me being white - e.g. not being affected by racism on a daily basis. I worry about how carefully I’d need to handle what I say in order to not misrepresent it.

The echo chamber of Instagram would have been fine for a book review in a way - to just project a view - but once questioned it would be very difficult to formulate a response without making things worse so I can understand not clarifying. A more blah book would probably have been a safer bet. Perhaps Eleanor Oliphant, which most people seem to have enjoyed or be excited about.

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Tireswing-yes I agree. I think if she had just said "Oh that's a good point, I don't really know" and really thought how to answer there could have been a really good discussion that followed ( instead of all the shit stuff that happened). It's ok to not know things!

I don’t think the book post was bad. It was probably an effort to change the conversation

And it didn’t need to be a review, it was just an invitation for responses

Although the account has been removed so can’t recall wording (and feels a bit odd to talk about a deleted post)

moon kissedlegs - I saw the antisemitism too, which wasn't corrected by her!

I absolutely agree scipio. Any discussion about possibly contentious subjects requires very careful use of judicious language. That has previously not been MOD's forte. I have said previously that I do feel that it is a shame that there isnt a kind friend with no skin in the game or a decent agent to point out these banana skins

I doubt every comment is even read

@ScipioAfricanus totally agree. I was very surprised that that was the book she picked for her first book reviewing post.

I expected it to be some fluffy chick-lit thing. I think she'd have been far better off doing something like that rather than try to show how woke she is.

It wasn't a book review as such. There was nothing of any depth about the review and most of her comments were just "mirroring" the posters. Absolutely no depth about a very serious subject which I think contributed to her defensive/aggressive attitude. Not her forte.

Hi threeizthemagicnumber I'm a geek so I did a search and I can find nothing with regard to any donations made by soaperduper to either charities since their pledge in 2016 in their company house filing or anywhere else. I think you might be right to be cynical.

I have recently started following LH and she seems like a person of substance.

Couple of you who weren't in favour of naming makes or making this chat about MOD - you realise you're doing that?

Lady yeah the IG comments that we comment here because we want anonymity are idiotic. Some of us might do it for that reason, but most don't. You've said your reason. Mine simply is that this is where I am, that I was on MN long before IG came about and have discussed a range of things here and will continue to do so.

I've had a catch up on this thread wondered about the accusations of jealousy. Isn't the purpose of advertising to induce those feelings? If we are jealous don't we covet something someone else has? We feel inadequate. Therefore, we are compelled to consume products to assuage those feelings.

I am a little older than most of the instamums and my children are older, but I enjoy following some of them. I confess that when I saw the Disney holiday posts I felt a strange stab of jealousy because I was not able to afford a holiday like that for my kids when they were younger. I unfollowed at that stage because I am far too old to feel like that about a stranger on SM.

I don’t get the anonymous attacks as a) it’s not like someone’s name means anything if they’re a random person on IG and b) I’ve met too many people on here not to feel accountable for what I say

I use both IG and here. I don’t follow any of the instamums but do enjoy IG

I use it differently. I think I’ve said a few things, ‘pretty’ or how much is the sofa

And that’s it. Because IG isn’t geared up for a conversation imo it’s post and comment on that. Plus I don’t want to have to put up an image every time I want to say something

Not sure if that relevant but it’s not like Mn is a dark den of anonymity, we build up conversations and even friendships on here

Not that interesting. But I want to move away from mod discussion

Someone described TMWC as a marshmallowy cuddly glittery GEM

My Instagram account is getting deleted tonight.

oh my god, people. She said it as a joke. Jesus. How many times have you said to someone who offended your friend, 'I'm gonna kill her/do you need me to put a hit out on him?'. Don't say you haven't. It's. A. JOKE. Wtf is happening to everyone getting all bent out of shape?

Well you seen lovely Sofia! 🤗😚

Sugar point taken! I personally felt if I’m not being negative and talking about an action rather than a person it wasn’t the same as previous comments I’ve made about an account as a whole or a negative account. But you’re right.

Mister I think that’s interesting. Materialism (and Capitalism) runs on coveting and encouraging dissatisfaction so we will buy to assuage it. I’ve tried to become more and more aware of that and it has changed my shopping habits. Perhaps using influencers encourages more of that via jealousy - I want what she has rather than I want what I see on tv. In a way it’s a bigger version of the nice coffee machine your neighbours bought: except this time the neighbour is an IG ‘friend’ or influencer.

Even with the crafty people I often follow I find myself thinking ‘oh I wish I had that kind of sewing machine’. And they’re generally not even trying to sell it to me (or maybe they are!).

I'm gonna kill her/do you need me to put a hit out on him?

Honestly? Never. I don't think I mix with particularly straightlaced people and that would raise an eyebrow

What are your views on the stabbing comments?

you are a bunch of bitches.

Lol.

@time I’ve never said anything like that to someone in a public setting, I can be certain of that. I’ve never threatened to stab someone or pay to have them killed even in a private setting. I find I’m able to joke with my friends without making light of knife crime.

The stabbing comments are in seriously bad taste IMO.

Especially coming from grown women and mothers.

Nope I've never said I'm going to kill someone or put a hit out on them either. I'm not in the Sopranos.

Thanks for bringing the aggression over here Sofia
Cba talking about that

No honestly I don’t talk about knives because I don’t type it and there’s not much difference

Having said that I really appreciate Susie posting and saying what she did so there’s no point in drawing it out

Sofia, thanks for telling us CH said we were a bunch of bitches. Not sure you'd appreciate you saying that when she's taken a break and presumably doesn't want any more MN aggro.