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caperberries · 23/05/2018 09:06

Is there a new thread about this?

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MsFortunaMajor · 23/05/2018 12:49

Why is MOD getting all the negative comments re. exploiting her children, when FOD does it so much worse? How does he get away with it unscathed?

Oddish · 23/05/2018 12:51

Because he is a man Fortuna , it’s as simple and misogynistic as that.

PunsandNeedles · 23/05/2018 12:53

Caperberries doh of course

Boredandtired · 23/05/2018 12:56

I know we are not allowed to discuss that person, but how is this all so wrong? She's very lucky it's not picked up on her attitude to her Instagram and followers and the comments she made and DM she sent, as that would be mortifying but the use of kids and ads is relevant except that her husband is 100x worse and his entire account is based on his kids as is his book!!

caperberries · 23/05/2018 13:04

FOD does it so much worse? How does he get away with it unscathed?

There's been plenty of criticism of him on previous threads

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MsFortunaMajor · 23/05/2018 13:12

Caperberries - Not on the same level as the criticism aimed at MOD. And he hasn't felt the need to delete his Instagram account over it. FOD has twice as many followers.

Oddish - sadly, you are right.

MediocrePenguin · 23/05/2018 13:18

They are writing about MOD as she's deleted her account. if she hadn't they wouldn't be writing about her - simple.

ChocolateTea · 23/05/2018 13:18

I think it's more the hypocrisy and bully screams that focused everything on CH as opposed to SH. CH has been known to send direct messages to people, put screenshots in her stories, reply to comments, in such a way that portrays her badly, often rude and aggressive. Where as the nearest SH got to it was wankergate sarcastic stories.

It's not as clear as man Vs woman. However, SHs account was always engineered this way, where as CHs changed. She also has a role which is subject to tight social media controls, which some have questioned.

I do think she has had more attention than others, but I don't think it's entirely unjustified.

Boredandtired · 23/05/2018 13:19

@mrsfortunamajor or could it be because she has commented on here and also because she has the most interaction with followers. Father of Daughters retains a professional distance, he's never commented on here (to my knowledge) he doesn't get in spats, he answers comments with humour or info but he doesn't actually cross the line. His job and workplace (although I think he said he now works from home 4 days a week?) have never been named and actually the majority of the info slips and oversharing of info have been from his wife's account and that's where you see the over invested fans, who 'love' her and 'miss' her, and she brightens their day etc.
I'm pretty sure that whilst FOD's account is child based, he's never had stories of them in uniform or actually identified their home address and stuff, so as she has she has endured more attention and discussion.

MarshaBradyo · 23/05/2018 13:20

Also the first article could lift quotes from here from one not the other

Although he doesn’t seem as embroiled in the he said she said dm’ing stuff (probably good)

PavlovaPrincess · 23/05/2018 13:22

I'm pissed off with those articles. This all kicked off because of comments left on MOD's account that we're fuck all to do with using her kids to advertise. I bet they've trawled through these threads (because MOD has deleted her account and any evidence) and just picked one of the things we've been discussing on here.

And actually, FOD uses the kids, especially the twins, way more than Clemmie does. And he's been roundly criticised for it too.

Boredandtired · 23/05/2018 13:25

@pavlovaprincess if they've trawled the threads then I do think she's come off lightly. Those screenshots off her page of comments made by her and others are so cringe.

MarshaBradyo · 23/05/2018 13:27

Although the DM will always stir the female angle as it’s their m.o (object to ‘ordinary mum’ ;)

Boredandtired · 23/05/2018 13:37

That timeinc interview is so bad. Simon and her need a break because they are bickering, and they are going away in the summer although they just went to Florida but that was work?
I'd have unfollowed a lot sooner if I'd read that. To tell an interviewer you are bickering and need a break from the lifestyle she'd just described!!
I'm now going to take a break as I think she's lucky that's all that got printed after how she conducted herself and if she activates her account again I hope she's a bit more grateful for her life and opportunities and stops making out it's all poor me.

NeverWas1 · 23/05/2018 13:38

FlyingBird Marsha Kitty 🙋 I skim watched Mean Girls (I preferred Clueless btw). MN is not the Mean Girls, IG is!! I see us more like Janis. Smile

MediocrePenguin · 23/05/2018 13:38

I don't really think it's a male/female thing it's just that FOD doesn't care as much, he doesn't interact as much, he's not heavily invested in the Instagram community, he's not really arsed what people say about him.

None of this would have happened if Clemmie would have just shrugged her shoulders are said 'meh, not everyone like me - so what.'

Being unable to accept or deal with any criticism gets people's back up and makes the situation worse and worse. Deleting her account in a huff has only fuelled that further.

TireSwing · 23/05/2018 13:48

Completely agree with you @MediocrePenguin - there is a reason many female influencers don't really feature in these discussions, and certainly not for any length of time and as prolifically as MOD and I don't believe FOD "getting off lightly" is to do with him being a man.

I feel like every aspect of MOD's life is our there - she shares everything and she seems to find it very hard to separate MOD from Clemmie Hooper. I couldn't tell you what Simon does on his nights off, who he socialises with, where he works, what he thinks about x, y or z. MOD (and others who crop up here a lot, but to a lesser extent) share everything.

greygray · 23/05/2018 14:09

@sparklefluff who is Justine?

greygray · 23/05/2018 14:10

@sparklefluff just seen she is to do with MN

greygray · 23/05/2018 14:11

Also can someone explain what NSSN has to do with MOD? On the previous thread someone was saying something about a post of hers having comments about MOD on it?

Oddish · 23/05/2018 14:14

If you think the spotlight isn’t shone so harshly on SH because he’s a man you need to wake up a little. Men get an easier ride, no one wants to question, women are fair game to be picked apart and ‘called’ out. SH is thoroughly exploiting his toddlers and all he gets is a gentle ribbing. I don’t agree with the things CH has done or how she dealt with them but as an OD unit, she has come out of this far worse and, from what I’ve seen time and time again, it comes down to the fact that she is a woman.

Oddish · 23/05/2018 14:15

grey NSSN & MOD are real life friends.

MarshaBradyo · 23/05/2018 14:17

He is worse with the children angle Oddish it’s true

PavlovaPrincess · 23/05/2018 14:17

@oddish have you read all these threads? Confused

FOD's had a lot more than a gentle ribbing. I'm guessing you missed #notawanker (which incidentally, is the only thing that FOD has ever responded to and that was through his IG stories).

Oddish · 23/05/2018 14:20

I have pavlova but I’m not just talking about these threads. Of the few voices speaking up on Instagram there has been no dissent to fod. And all the weird stuff at the end of the last thread about him was just Confused