Instamums in the Telegraph

[caperberries]

Is there a new thread about this?

kisbot the wee slice story is very much still there.

Oh sorry thought it was gone.
My mistake

What was that weeslice event for?

I still can't believe she basically crowdfunded money from insta followers to pay for her parking fine that time.

girl gang deleted her mn story almost immediately maybe that’s who you were thinking of 😊

It was by That Mum, Laura is think her name is.
Said some rather blunt things.

This is the spiel for the event, I’m still none the clearer. It started as a joke?

Oh goodness why didn’t WS just say “I’m so sorry you felt that way”
If that was a guest of mine, at something I had organised I would be so embarrassed I had made them feel like that and I would apologise.
Or even if I didn’t actually feel sorry or embarrassed, I would lie and pretend I did to protect my brand and just come across as a welcoming and thoughtful person. #bekind

Just seen Thatmumwith’s stories, calling the person who went to the event a fucking liar, she seems quite aggressive.

TMWC doth protest too much I think, she comes across really fucking horrible and bullying but no one’s gonna argue with someone with cancer are they?

Wow..Watched her story..

No Comment..

Did anyone follow Beatrice and Finch on instagram she was American and posted really beautiful pictures of her idyllic life in the country. She got very big very quickly. In her case it was primarily about photography there was no advertising. Anyway she deleted her account because the whole thing obviously completely freaked her out in the end she explained it was about her daughters privacy and the effect it was having on their relationship. I was sad because I loved her pictures. I thought it was interesting though how the whole thing could snowball and you lose control.
I do feel sorry for Clemmie Hooper now, has anyone read Jon Ronson's book on public shaming? I have real problems with the instamums and their commodified feminism, but I think a lot of it is to do with wider issues about privilege and over-sharing and somehow they've all focused in on her account. I know she's been unpleasant to people, but I do think some accounts were watching her every move ready to pounce on anything and that must have been very wearing. I think it would be good to stop commenting on her now and just leave it for awhile. The wider issues about children's privacy and advertising are more interesting anyway.

These really aggressive Instastory replies aren't doing of the IGers any favours, are they? Neither the people who are making them or the people they are defending are coming out of this in a good light.

My advice for when they hear negative feedback would be to put their phones down, step away from the internet for at least 48 hours and then think about whether replying through the medium of Instagram is actually a good idea.

Anyone got This Morning on?

After the break they are doing a piece about sharing childrens details online.

My god weeslice's and tmwc reaction to a dissenting view on how an event went..its actually quite terrifying...

am glad to read MP is going to see MOD, if MOD is taking advice please take it from someone sane (ie, MP) and not some of the insta-crazies that are jumping on the bandwagon.

Some of them are in an Insta bubble where they feel totally justified in posting what they want, saying what they want and refuse to be questioned. And yet, for a lot of them, Instagram forms a major part of their business and brand, if they want to see an example of someone using social media in the same way, look at Brandon from Deciem/The Ordinary and how much damage he's potentially done to business by adopting the same attitude.

Imagine being at work, and going into an appraisal, mostly good feedback but a few areas that could be improved mentioned (eg, tagging ads with #ad, perhaps not featuring your kids in every post), and your response being 'You can't say that to me, be kind, be kind, I'll cut you, I'll get my husband to have a word'. It's no different to when kids poke their fingers in their ears and go 'not listening, not listening'

I agree poca it seems even more likely that the negative experience someone had is true. They’re trying to bat away the negativity with anger and aggression rather than engage.

interesting that their only defense is to attack rather than give examples as to why the persons observations are wrong.

Even if I’d previously considered going to an even where they allowed the common people in (which is unusual), based on the reactions to criticism I’ve seen the last 2 days, there is no way whatsoever I’d consider it now. In fact I would also dissuade friends from attending & unfollow those who have shown their true colours. If this is supposed to be a business then reaction to feedback is critical surely?!

Event* not even

feedback from fawning followers and insta-buddies is the only feedback that counts, any other is jealousy blah blah blah....

What can mod come back with though?

Kids - no
Book reviews - Big no
Attacking famous female celebs - Big No
Midwifery - Tricky
Holiday - No
Beach shots - No, identifies location
Seeking 'recommendations' - No
Latest M&S dress - maybe
Lipstick - maybe
Apology - Can of worms (unless MP is writing it for her today?)

She's f*cked whatever she does now.

I predict mod will come back with a ‘campaign’ which will involve government lobbying and centred around pregnancy/birth/bfing/multiples/pre or postnatal health, maybe mental health/maternity leave etc

I suppose she can come back with whatever she wants if she thinks it’s ethically sound, because her fans are unwavering. The difference is she’ll have to delete/block/ignore any criticism and not open any discussions (same as FOD). But she could do that if she wanted to carry on getting free stuff & trips etc. It doesn’t seem like a great life to me

Oddish I don't think she is articulate enough to pull off a campaign.

MP charmed the pants off these threads, mod not so much.