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AIBU to not forgive SIL affair?

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Ambs81 · 18/05/2018 11:35

This is a complicated one- but I'll try to tell the short version! Any advice, especially from those who've experienced similar would be great.
Last year I found out a work colleague had split from their husband of 10 years after finding out he'd been having a 6 month affair with a younger women, who was known to my work colleague.
Like anyone, my work friend had completely broken down, she'd confronted the girl he was having the affair with -who she knew well and after a few days, rang the fiancee of the girl involved to make sure he also knew what had been going on.
She found out when typically, her idiot now-ex-husband had left his phone with hundreds of photos, video, messages from the other women in an archived chat. Most of it was quite sexual, but they had also told each other they loved each other, and discussed plans to leave their partners (talking solicitors for divorce, living arrrangements).
The plot thickened when a week later, it was mentioned in passing the name of the finance of the girl involved in the affair - it was my brother in laws name (my husband's brother). Its not a very common first name, or surname (now my surname), i was surprised my work friends hadn't already made the connection.
We quickly confirmed it was my BIL financee (they are due to get married this summer), I was shown some of the images / video involved and it was clear she was the guilty party, I also noticed she'd come off social media at this point.
I obviously told my husband, and explained his brother already knew what had gone on - but encouraged him to talk to his brother and support him through the fallout.
His brother was extremely upset we knew, and as his fiancee had managed to convince him the affair was just text messages, not sex, our input confirmed that it was sexual (i watched footage of them having sex!), which obviously caused my BIL more upset.
Long story short, 6 months later and my BIL has decided to stay with the his financee, after 2-3 days living apart, they decided they were both to blame and wanted to stay together.
My BIL suffers from depression, and it seems as though the family feel this caused her to have an affair, as he was distant and not meeting her needs. As someone who has suffered with depression, I feel really shocked that this is being used to justify her betrayal. Also worth noting she was my BIL first relationship/ girlfriend, so he has no other frame of reference.
They've also decided to go ahead with the wedding this year, 10 months after the affair came out. While I think it's far enough to stay together, I think going ahead with the wedding as planned is a joke - especially with it taking place in a catholic church.
While the rest of the family have totally forgiven and forgotten, my husband and I are really struggling to come to terms with it and treat her as family. My husbands family don't want it to be talked about, it is completely swept under the carpet now, but I havent directly spoken to my BIL or his fiancee since this came out (6 months ago).
At the request of my mother in law (who i greatly respect, she has helped me a lot with my DS) I did reach out to the girl involved, suggesting we meet and bury the hatchet. The reply was quite a rude and basically indicated they were angry at us, and that she was willing to accept me as family 'no matter what' (inferring I'd done something wrong??).
Since that exchange of messages there has been no contact, I'm avoiding family situations/ occasions where they'll be and visa versa.
I'm happy to continue with this, but with the wedding approaching i feel it is going to come to a head, as I don't want to attend and don't want my son to attend.
I would go out of respect for my BIL (who was a close childhood friend and how I met my husband), but as he hasn't spoken to me since this happened I feel that I have no relationship with the bride or groom, and it feels bizarre to think of going to their wedding when I'm not on speaking terms with them.
I still feel so angry at her and I feel devasted for my BIL, because he is such a lovely guy and I feel he is being duped. None of his close friends know the truth and I worry the only people he confinded in - his parents- were more worried about maintaining the status quo (as the wedding invites had gone out, they own a house together etc) then his self esteem and self worth.
As the family have moved on so quickly, I feel they think IABU to still hold a grudge and not let it go, I also know it will hurt my MIL and FIL to not have me at the wedding, more then anything because they wouldn't like their friends to think/know they was an issue/dispute in the family.
I know I'm taking the moral highground with nothing to really gain, but just can't move pass the fact that she did this to my BIL and also to my work friend - who has now ended her marriage of 10 years.
It seems wrong that on one side a marriage is over, but on the other its business as usual and the wedding planning is in full swing.
Had her cheating been a one off, or even a two-off thing, I wouldn't feel as strongly but it was such a prolonged affair, with meeting for sex 1-2 times a week in my BIL house, there was also a lot of bad mouthing of my BIL in the messages exchanged, and she was putting a lot of pressure on the man involved to get a solicitor and get a divorce.
I also find it weird that while my work friends marriage was in a bad place - they were having counselling - my BIL was unaware of any problem, and his fiancee seemed fine and very actively planning her wedding.
Another side note is my own brother, having cheated on his fiancee went ahead with his wedding and then split after 6 months - and still can't start divorce proceedings as haven't been married long enough. I wish I'd advised my brother to delay his wedding, but as he was the wrong-doer I guess I encouraged him (or at least didn't discourage hime) to make things right by going through with it (in the end it was his wife's choice to end it). I'm raising this as I have recent experience with how marrying of the back of infidelity is never a good idea!
Sorry for such a long post...I guess my question to you guys is AIBU to not forgive and forget, and AIBU to not attend wedding?

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scrumples · 18/05/2018 18:22

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Cuppaoftea · 18/05/2018 18:23

She fucking hates that you saw those videos, which is why she was poison to you in the text.

OP's SIL has every right to feel violated by OP choosing to watch a private video of her having sex that she didn't give consent to be shared.

OP would have been a better friend if she'd declined to look at the phone footage and given her colleague a gentle reminder she could get in serious trouble for sharing it.

Notonthestairs · 18/05/2018 18:24

I think fizzy is spot on.

Bluntness100 · 18/05/2018 18:25

I also think she is a bit of a user, had 5 years living there without paying a penny - moved in with them around 2 months after meeting my BIL

Ah, so it's the don't like her option. Want to get the max out this little scenario,

Tell me op, does she happen to be attractive?

Ambs81 · 18/05/2018 18:34

@Bluntness100

That's not fair, with hindsight I think those things. I didn't at the time. She was actually my bridesmaid 4 years ago.

She is a very attractive women, and up until she had an affair I thought my BIL was a lucky guy to have her, as she always seemed to worship the ground he walked on and never asked for a lot from him. The only thing she ever pushed for was the engagement/ wedding, which she seemed to love planning and organising.

That's why when this all came out it was a shock, to me and everyone in the family who know.

You must admit it is weird to move in with in laws a few weeks after starting a relationship with someone?

I lived with them for 2 month when my house flooded, and it was hard work, despite them being lovely people.

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Bluntness100 · 18/05/2018 18:37

No, what I think is weird is your obession with them, your over investement in their lives, your judgement and the fact you read those messages or watched videos is appalling, you're no friend of hers and you know it.

And yes, I think you're envious of her for something, possibly her looks of her relationship with thr inlaws, and you're using this scenario to gain as much advantage as you can from it.

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LunaTrap · 18/05/2018 18:39

Why does it matter to you how quickly she moved in. You say she has no family, that must be tough. Maybe your ILs took her under their wing for that reason. They sound very kind and are willing to put this all behind them and support their son's wishes and them as a couple. It has nothing to do with you.

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whatamistake · 18/05/2018 18:40

Op, funny you should say that - about the fact you’d be outcast if you or other sil did it but because this one is golden child mil is happy to sweep it under the carpet (must be a bloody big carpet!)....anyway, my sil IS DOING THIS to my bil currently - totally humiliating him. Guess what? Mil is using her broom -that I suspect she flies on- to sweep that under the carpet too.

Sadly it seems you and I have inlaws who have similar ‘values’ (if you can call them that with a straight face). My mil wants to save face and herself the embarrassment of everyone knowing that her golden dil is actually a deceitful slut, and your mil would be mortified if you bil cancelled the wedding because she’s feel humiliated by it (because it’s all about her, obviously 🤔)....

Good luck with your inlaws op.

You sil has done damn cheek to be rude to you when you caught her out and called her out on her minimising to you bil....’it was only a few messages, we never even met’ (-except when we were shagging several times a week all around our house and our bed and videoing it to have a w@nk over later-)

You sil sounds very, very unsavoury. Keep far, far away!

Sorry to those thinking I’m being blunt. At least this op has a bit about her, refusing to be part of this bs.

Massive respect to you again and good luck!!!

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FizzyGreenWater · 18/05/2018 18:42

Jesus.

OP, give it up. I'd leave this thread.

happypoobum · 18/05/2018 18:43

You sound like a shit stirring pain in the arse OP.

LoislovesStewie · 18/05/2018 18:44

Perhaps she feels completely unwanted/unworthy so this other man's attention went to her head? I'm trying to give another side to the story not excuse her behaviour.We all do stupid things now and then.

LunaTrap · 18/05/2018 18:44

I suspect there is some underlying misogyny in the OP's stance too. After all her brother 'only' dumped his fiancée of 16 years for another woman so he doesn't get as much judgement. I doubt OP demanded he apologize to her DH, which is the equivalent of what she is expecting of her SIL.

Bluntness100 · 18/05/2018 18:45

I also agree with the pp who said you're enjoying this too much, You're revelling in it and want to drag it out as much as you can.

I guess you're on here now because you've exhausted anyone who will listen to you any more in real life?

whatamistake · 18/05/2018 18:47

Op, be true to yourself and you won’t go wrong.

Ambs81 · 18/05/2018 18:51

@Bluntness100 - you might be right in terms of in laws, she is certainly their favourite, perhaps I am jealous of that on some level I guess.

It's not something of thought of much prior to this all happening. We prob see eachother as a family every 2-3 months, so its not like we live in eachothers pockets.

My in laws are lovely people, but can be quite harsh and judgemental - last time they came over they spent 1 hour talking about their friends (adult) childrens failed marriages, careers etc...I bit my tongue both thought it was a bit rich given all this.
My MIL in law also happily shared to wider family about my brothers marriage break up, whilst in the same breath made me promise I wouldn't take to anyone in my family about my BIL and his partner.

They love gossip, but not when its about their own kids/family!

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FASH84 · 18/05/2018 18:51

You don't have to go to the wedding, but ask DH what he wants it's his brother after all and the brother has done no wrong and he may want to support him, regardless of whether he agrees with the decision to go ahead. Ultimately though it's not your relationship or decision to make, it's up to each couple what becomes a deal breaker, you have your limits and they have theirs. If DH wants to go and would like your support , personally in your shoes I'd go. If he's happy to go alone or doesn't want to go either there's your answer, it's his family so any fall out will affect him most.

Ohmydayslove · 18/05/2018 18:52

Agree you sound like you are relishing the drama and are jealous of your sil.

I would get this thread pulled op as the fail mail will love the sex tape bit. As clearly you did too. Very distasteful to have watched that. Poor judgment on your part.

Let them get on with their lives and keep your beak out

LunaTrap · 18/05/2018 18:56

So in your first post you greatly respect your MIL who has helped you a lot with your child but now she is a judgemental gossip who plays favourites Hmm

Ambs81 · 18/05/2018 18:56

@bluntness100

I'm on here because can't tell anyone in my own family, or speak to anyone in DH family, have talked through with my friends who all tell me I'm totally right to cut her off, and not go to the wedding.

You seem really angry with me - sorry if I've offended you with this!

I've found the whole situation bizarre, from start to finish, it is like something off jeremy kyle.

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Wherearemymarbles · 18/05/2018 18:56

Havnt read the whole thread but...

You’ve read the messages where she has been slagging him off etc

Why do you think she wants to marry him? Do you think she loves him? Sounds like he is a soft touch and fears being alone more than being with her.

I would go to the wedding but I wouldnt pussy foot around her. My Brother knew how much I loathed his ex wife as did she. Never impacted wider family.

FizzyGreenWater · 18/05/2018 18:57

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Wherearemymarbles · 18/05/2018 18:59

Personally i’ve always found it easier when people call a spade a spade and dont try to play family politics by being nicey nicey just to keep the peace.

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