Influencer ethics on Instagram 2

[MadameGrizzly]

It appears we haven't quite finished workshopping the ethical issues of 'influencing' on Instagram: disclose of advertising, the exploitation of minors and the similarities to MLM schemes.

It'd be selfless if she did it for free.

It probably feels selfless against the back drop of IG superficiality.

But it is very patronising. It’s a job for which people train and get paid like many others. And if it wasn’t for the uptick of IG a couple of years ago (twins) would be the main job

Selfless is a poor choice of word. But she's in a financial position to be able to catch the train from Kent into London to work in an NHS position. She gets up and leaves at the crack of dawn, doesn't get home till very late, by the time childcare is paid for and travel, she's probably paying to do it? Maybe it does feel selfless in that position?

Maybe Bored I’d like to find a better reason for the word, otherwise it irks

Talking money, part time working mummy put something on about being offered 40k to advertise gambling, but wouldn't, even with it being a life changing amount of money. Good for her.

I can't see any of the instamums adgreeinf with advertising gambling anyway but it shows you the sums of money being bandied about.

Moonkissedlegs

Yep his writing it not everyone's cup of tea, and can be quite sloppy, but the photography is professional and the captions require effort. I have only come across a couple of others, papa pukka and benjamming (clemmie Telford's hub) and they don't post much and their posts are very brief.

As for the creepy crush thing some of you have expressed, just no. How ugly are the men in your office?

@itsautumn phrased it better than I did about the issues children will face going forward being pawns of a social media empire, constantly posing etc.

I have a social media loving family member who posts millions of selfies on Facebook. Her dc ask me to see any pics of them I take so they can check if it needs re-posing. They are very small, the effect it is having on them is clear. One of them is actually having some help because of linked issues.

Easy on the eye?

#neverforget

Not sure where we are on the ethics conversation > cough < but I've heard () that Martha's happily ever after hub is fit and Kelly the bees knees'

MadameGrizzly. He really loses the plot when he's on his own doesn't he. He was deranged that week.

She's only doing the one shift a week, and when you factor in the train costs it can't be really paying her to work anymore? Call me cynical but her being a midwife is a very important aspect of her online persona, and popularity. She will have been advised to 'keep her hand in' with the midwifery. It's a very useful weapon to be used against the haterz e.g. artfully posed images of her looking exhausted at the end of a back breaking shift #shatteredbutsofulfilled

I wouldn't have thought the fact people go on maternity leave would be any reason to imply they were less experienced or hands on than those who don't, that's a bizarre comment. Thousands of women take maternity leave every year, doesn't mean they're any less as a result.

Speculating she only midwives to "keep haterz" happy? Really?

Just been on mods thread about kk. Her followers are absolutely terrifying!!!

You misunderstand me. I expect she has been advised to maintain a token midwifery shift because her being a working midwife is integral to her persona, and it conveys on her a virtual saint like status in the eyes of her followers.

Her kids are 2, she's not on mat leave

Ouch. There's a few reading this thread.

You lot should organise a meet up, drink shit loads of 🍷 and 🍸 whilst doing an insta-story live, then you could really let rip

Fucking hilarious that this is still going on, gawd love ya. Beats zumba as a hobby.

Great post Pamster

Glad you’re reading

Surely it's obvious that a midwife who has worked full time for 10 years will be considerably more experienced than one who has only worked part time for 7 years + months and months off on maternity leave?

Being pedantic MOD only probably has 3-4 years experience as a qualified midwife and the first year of that would have been her preceptorship anyway.

Being a midwife, like a lawyer and other professions require hands on experience pqe - post qualification experience. Maternity leave does affect that.

I got the impression she loves being a midwife and will go back to more hours once her kids are older. She said I was 'spiteful' to say it, but I don't think she is a good writer.

I’ve been really interested in reading this lately. I’m skint and am not influenced by all this yummy mummy type advertising - it just makes me feel annoyed to be honest so I don’t follow any of them at all although I do know who they are and what they do. I am in the demographic but I know I can’t have any of these things so I don’t aspire to copy them or be influenced, I have what I have and make do with it. And I don’t mind, because who cares if I do or don’t? Only me!

What I have seen though is my own sister basically has become a double of MOD and it’s a weird twilight zone. I don’t know if she follows her or if it’s just the whole influencer style but clothes, hair, travelling, make up and the one that gets me is the house... Dsis has completely overhauled her house and it looks like something off IG. It really looks like Clemmies house. She even now wants the same Hall floor tiles. And they can afford it all so I have no problem with that, what I am about is how my highly intelligent sister, high earner and seemingly independent woman has become so indoctrinated and a clone of this ‘scene’ with beautiful filtered photos and showy house objects. It is terrifying how this has infiltrated our society and people don’t even realise they are doing it. Individuality is completely lost if we are just trying to aspire to be like everyone else in this middle class zombie zone of muted tones of green and grey.

The influencers just believe they are giving people what they like, but they too have this anxiety of making things better, more middle class aspirational (‘we came from nuffin luv actually’) with their lovely rugs and lovely bed linen and lovely clothes, why would you want that to end? Once you are in it must be so hard to get out. We are all being consumed by massive corporations making us buy things, to me influencers are just pawns and the risk is all on them, not Pampers or Miele. I pity the influencers at the same time being so irritated by what they are doing. I don’t blame them for making a living from it but what a vacuous uninspiring legacy to leave for your children, in all honesty. I’m also sad at how many people feel ‘touched’ by their influence. Do they really not have anyone or anything else to aspire to?

I have given thought to the children issue and I agree, I think many of the influencers have gone too far with photos and it’s not fair on the children. Children are not commodities to be monetised