To wonder what people think about this, child maintenance

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A man has a one night stand that results in the woman becoming pregnant, neither of them were mindful about taking precautions.

He tells the woman from the offset that he isn't ready to have a baby and he doesn't want to be involved, but respects her decision if she chooses to keep the baby and go it alone but makes it clear he won't be a part of the childs life or hers.

Woman keeps the baby knowing the father won't be involved and is prepared to be a single parent, as the due date looms the father begins getting messages about paying for the child.

Should he pay CM?

Yes. If he chose to dip it with a wrapper he can help contribute

what if it was a case of the woman lying about being on birth control?Erm, doesn't change things. If a man does not want a child HE is responsible for wrapping it up.
This is exactly what I plan to educate my DSs about when they are old enough.
Yes he has to pay, like it or not.

Yes he should pay

what if it was a case of the woman lying about being on birth control?
It's a bit stupid not to use a condom with a stranger anyway, one of them could be getting aids, syphilis, herpes, aside from the baby.

In short a woman can negate her obligations but a man is forever tied

Yes that's just how the world works. Women can be fancy free and men are bowed down with their obligations.

Funny then how often a woman is left holding all of the obligations - forever tied as it were - and a man hops off into the sunset - like this one will do no doubt.

Isn't the difference between a woman aborting and a man paying that in the case of a man being financially responsible for a child he doesn't want - there is ACTUALLY a child who will suffer if he doesn't.

The rights of the child's welfare trumps whether he wants a child or not. Safest thing to do if he doesn't want one is celibacy or get snipped. Otherwise there's always A risk even if minute if you put your penis in a vagina that she may decide to keep a baby if she ends up pregnant.

Yes. And he ought to be ashamed for being a spineless careless arse too

Dont pour the batter if you dont want to make pancakes😀

His gamble didnt pay off he has to pay up.

What if it was a case of the woman lying about being on birth control? Then the father says that he's not interested in being in the child's life etc?

Should he then be expected to pay? It's a tough one.

It is absolutely not 'a tough one'.

The simple answer: a NRP should always pay for the child they created.

I don't care if he didn't want it. I don't care if she lied. I don't care if they don't know each other. They are not the important ones - the child is, a child who needs raised, food in its belly and shoes on its feet, why should that child suffer because of parental circumstances?

Sadly there are some fuckwits out there who think that men should be able to be abscond financially from lying if they 'don't want' the child.

Here's my message to all the men out there - you live in a country where you know fine well a woman has 100% of the decision making WRT an unwanted pregnancy. With this in mind, how about you -
A. Use contraception, as much as you can, but be mindful that it may fail, and be prepared for those consequences
B. Choose a partner wisely, with the same values as you, and who you could tolerate if she did have your baby. I know it can be quite upsetting at the thought of not sticking it in just anyone with a pulse and treating women like wank socks, but there you go
C. Abstain. I know for some men not getting your dick wet is a fate worse than death, but again if you're so against becoming a father it's not a bad choice.
D. Get the snip.

What not to do

A. Refrain from doing any of the above and piss and moan when it turns out nature worked jts course and you made a baby.

Even if she gives birth she can then choose to keep, put forward for adoption, put into care

Lol, do you think women are just allowed to drop babies off at foster homes like parcels? Do some research before you spout bollocks

I presume all those who say he DTD and therefore should face the music oppose abortion?

I presume all those who say he DTD and therefore should face the music oppose abortion?

Nope. But when a man can get pregnant, then he can have a say in when HE has an abortion. Because as it stands now it is it happening to his body.

Tell me, would you want to live in a world where men can dictate what women do with their bodies?

I presume all those who say he DTD and therefore should face the music oppose abortion?

No. I support abortion when a woman choses it. I don't support a man's right to make a woman have an abortion.

Mawalls how is having unprotected sex comparable to being opposed to abortion?

Anyone who has unprotected sex and is of childbearing age and has not been sterilised knows the risk of unprotected sex is a possible child.

You have a child you need to contribute financially towards that child’s maintenance.
Why shouldn’t you?

If you don’t want a child use contraception or don’t have sex.

He has a legal.duty to maintain his child even if he has no contact with said child or the mother.

To the PPs that have said the woman holds all the cards and the man is tied forever.

However, take this particular example biological dad does not want to be involved (still has duty to financially support).

Mum meets new partner, go on to marry have children etc. Husband adopts child in example, biological father is then no longer legally liable for child maintenance.

I presume all those who say he DTD and therefore should face the music oppose abortion?
No. I’m pro-choice. I don’t see any contradiction in that position. Do you advocate forced abortions then?

He doesn't have a choice

Tell me, would you want to live in a world where men can dictate what women do with their bodies?

You realize opposition to abortion is higher in women than men right?

I am unclear as to your thought process. Men must take responsibility but women dont? Surely men should have 24 weeks to financially abort

I presume all those who say he DTD and therefore should face the music oppose abortion?

Im not opposed to abortion no. The difference is the psychological and physical effects on a living child of him NOT paying.

It's really very simple - he doesn't take the risk, no matter how small or sensible he was being if he doesn't want to be financially responsible. There's always a risk with a penis in a vagina that a child may result. ALWAYS

Yep fucking right . Don't have unprotected sex if there is zero chance you want a baby. End of

Mawall having an abortion is 'facing the music'- it is a potential consequence of pregnancy for the woman. It is an invasive medical procedure that has risks and can impact on a woman's mental health. It isn't a reset button.

@clumsyduck or ANY sex. Contraception fails. Women lie.

Yes and it would be karma if no one ever agreed to have sex with him again.

And it's not comparable to a woman having an abortion is it . Men aren't the ones carrying a baby , giving birth, being the main cater etc etc etc

It's tough shit as far as I'm concerned . Take precautions

Well that's the risk you take as a sexually active adult unfortunately isn't it