To hate the body positive movement

[Raven88]

I used to believe in it until I was diagnosed as pre diabetic. Genetically I gain weight easily and I comfort ate.

Since Boxing Day I have been eating healthy and started exercising and I've lost weight. But I've also become healthy. I used to be in constant pain and tired all the time but that changed as soon as I took charge.

It scares me that they are leading people down a dangerous path by promoting an unhealthy lifestyle.

EH? i missed that post Gwen Bet the MP was a man

Thats pure misogyny saying a woman can change her body shape/type.

@Piesandprosecco This isn't an attack on people who are overweight. Sorry if it offended you.

@RebelRogue as I said I went through a period of comfort eating and other things I won't disclose. I need to count calories because genetically I gain weight really easily. I am happier than I have ever been.

"A lot of the other Staff are also Obese. A few of the World renown Consultants, that I've seen is very overweight.That dismisses the 'stupid and lazy' tag given."

Yes, but I don't think 12-hour shifts are good for you, nor is working different hours and nights and getting very tired so you don't have much time to prepare healthy food and exercise.

"EH? i missed that post Gwen Bet the MP was a man"

It was a woman. I think she was trying to help.
www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/7909719/Curvy-Christina-Hendricks-is-fabulous-role-model-says-equalities-minister.html

(First ever mumsnet msg) compelled to respond... how about a little more ‘live and let live’, less judgement and more compassion. The diet industry runs on shame and guilt and has done a great job of pitting us against us. When we could be promoting happy (and healthy) food and body relationships. Body dislike and disordered eating does not care what size we are. Get (re)educated around HAES health at every size and the perceived obesity crises. For transparency I’m helping set up (with other volunteers) a not for profit mindful eating body confidence weekly club which you can search for using part of my name here. Helen x

The Body positivity movement has plenty of problems and for sure there are people out there who use it to deny the link between obesity and various diseases. That said, Body positivity isn't advising people to only eat junk food and never exercise; it's telling people to accept their bodies as they are.

Shaming body types doesn't help. If there is anything I have learned from having had eating disorders for several years, it's that it's much easier to listen to your body and treat it properly if you love an accept it as it is, than if you hate it. Accepting your body as it is doesn't mean you can't make changes. I have (more or less) come to accept my body as it is, I started going to the gym a month or so ago because I want to be stronger, fitter and healthier. As a result my body has and will continue to change. Here is the thing though, I get a lot more out of going to the gym now than I did a couple of years ago when I hated my body and my only reason for going was to burn calories and lose weight. That is the message Body Positivity is trying to spread.

If self loathing and staring at your reflection in the mirror and willing it to be thinner actually worked, I wouldn't have spent my entire life being over weight. I am working on it, and have lost weight, but the times when I feel miserable about myself are the times I fall off the wagon and comfort eat, because I feel like there's no point. When I'm feeling better about myself, that's when I am motivated to keep going.

Some definitions:

Body positivity: whatever size/weight you are, your body is amazing and you are a person worthy of respect and self-respect.

Health at every size: whatever size/weight you are, it is more effective to focus on becoming healthier than on losing weight. Becoming healthier may lead to losing weight, but it is a much more effective goal to keep in mind than simply looking at numbers on a scale.

Fat shaming: everything the OP has said so far.

I'm healthy BMI and generally healthy, not super fit, I'm a size 10 top 10-12 bottom, but have a flat bum, pretty flat chested and carry any weight on my tummy and hips. Instagram tells me I should have a tiny waist big boobs and a bum like a Kardashian, I'm fairly comfortable in my skin these days so it doesn't worry me. My SIL is five years younger than me (28) and a lot of her friends who are perfectly fine are having Botox, fillers, implants , tattooed make up etc. There is a need for body positivity to be discussed, that doesn't mean people are glorifying obesity and an unhealthy lifestyle.

They’re not promoting an unhealthy lifestyle though it’s about loving yourself as you are. Doesn’t mean encouraging people to eat pies/cakes.

I thought it was about accepting who you are and trying to live your life.
I.e not sitting inside depressed that you can’t go out and enjoy yourself because you’re not thin enough or worthy enough. So it’s about taking charge and enjoying life to the full.
Personally I think if you’re out enjoying life, then you are being active and more likely to choose to eat healthily as your mindset for some of the time is food is a fuel. But if you’re stuck inside waiting for the day to come when you turn into a butterfly so you can start enjoying life, then you’re likely to be comfort eating and it’s a downhill spiral to the bottom.

As far as I can tell some people just hate fat people more than anything else. Well, it’s a choice to eat lots of food and if we die early it’s not your business. Personally I hate smokers.

I look after my health. I eat well and go to the gym.

I had triplets and have a massive paunch, probably about a stone heavier than I should be "according to bmi"

I will never lose that stone, unless it's through surgery.

I'm "overweight" and body positive.

People should stop bashing people!

If self loathing and staring at your reflection in the mirror and willing it to be thinner actually worked, I wouldn't have spent my entire life being over weight. I am working on it, and have lost weight, but the times when I feel miserable about myself are the times I fall off the wagon and comfort eat, because I feel like there's no point. When I'm feeling better about myself, that's when I am motivated to keep going

This is utterly the truth. This is why fat shaming is neither kind, helpful or motivational. I wish everybody could grasp this.

Of course it's great to champion acceptance of less-than-perfect bodies, but I do kind of hate the vanity behind it and the fact it's main leaders are conventionally attractive middle class women, who also make money out of the whole thing.

I feel the need to apologise for this thread. I didn't mean to offend anyone and I have a big issue with my weight and I get a bit obsessed with weight and diet in general. I was having a bad day because now that I see progress I am angry that I let myself get this big. No one deserves to be shamed or made to feel bad.

Raven

I think we start threads like this because we're conflicted, confused, perhaps feeling a little guilty...

Sometimes the truth hurts a lot (for me anyway..its spurred me to join LCHF this time)

KOKO

I thought you were all happy and stuff?