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...to ask about headscarf etiquette?

147 replies

HoneyBadgerApparently · 11/05/2018 20:43

Do Muslim women who chose to wear a headscarf wear it at home?

And if you don’t wear it at home, is it something you look forward to whipping off the minute you walk through the door before you get comfy (like I do with my bra Wink)

Asking purely out of curiosity.

OP posts:
FastSlug · 14/05/2018 00:50

So much talk of jinns, just as well they will be locked up soon Grin

getalifesonny · 14/05/2018 10:27

We have been told in Quran us to cover ourselves and not show off apparent beauty and to cover our bosoms. At that time when the ruling came down Muslim women threw sheets on themselves to cover themselves fully. Their interpretation of the verse has been carried on forward to till day. Now a days people have different interpretations on how they cover themselves but personally I would follow the old interpretation because lets be honest their faith was stronger than us considering they went through a lot of hardships just to follow what they believed in.

Hijab itself is not only for muslim women but for men too. They too should wear loose fitting clothes and lower their gaze.

I do understand where the well meaning people who oppose wearing a head scarf come from and I agree that it should not be forced on any one. However they forget that most women wear it out of their choice and telling them to take it off is just as misogynistic as forcing them to wear it. Why can't they just let them be and let them follow their personal choice? we are not doing anybody any harm covering ourselves.

Yes we do get hot in scarf but we wear breathable materials that are comfortable to wear in summer. I personally keep my hair short as it's not the scarf that makes me warm but my hair. Scarf is also a good protection from direct sunlight and cold both. People wear sun hats in summer and wooly hats in winter so scarf is multipurpose.

getalifesonny · 14/05/2018 10:36

And it's so interesting to talk about jinns. I wonder what they look like. We are not the only creatures in this world. We know about animals and micro organisms. Jinns are similar but something that we can't see. And most people even non-muslims believe in strange happenings. Me and my family have experienced a few things that some people will blame on ghosts. Like someone turning the handle which we all saw but nobody was in the corridor. So yeah there are naughty ones out there and good ones too. there is a whole chapter in Quran about them.

@Fartslug only bad jinns will be locked up as far as my understanding goes right?

I don't cover my hair in the loo but I do read the duas of protection.

Athrawes · 14/05/2018 10:53

How do women achieve that lovely high at the back/top of the head look with a headscarf? Do you know what I mean - it elongates the crown of the head?

lollilollipopps · 14/05/2018 13:43

yes the Quran tells us to cover ourselves specifically bosoms but not head, it's not mentioned. As for apparant beauty, to me the most beautiful part of most women is the eyes so should I cover those too?

I don't know if you meant me, but I certainly don't oppose the hijab, I think it looks beautiful but I don't think it's necessary according to religion, if my daughter wanted to wear one id be more than happy for her, I think everyone has a right to wear what they want as long as it's not jeapardising (spelling??) anyone else's security.
i out of choice and religion cover arms and legs, arms from elbow and legs fully. That's my interpretation and how I'm comfortable.

Nikephorus · 14/05/2018 13:53

Is it terribly hot wearing a headscarf and do you get used to it?
Can I ask a similar question in case anyone knows - do men get hot heads wearing turbans in the summer & do they take them off at home? I've always wondered....

TomRavenscroft · 14/05/2018 14:05

there are many pictures of her with her head uncovered out and about.

That's interesting. One of my zumba teachers at the gym took a photo of us all after her last class, and a Muslim woman who didn't wear her headscarf in class (it was women-only) asked her not to take the picture until she'd put her headscarf back on. Is this another personal/pragmatic choice or preference?

TeaStory · 14/05/2018 14:10

Athrawes with a shaper cap or a volumiser scrunchie/clip.

Bloomed · 14/05/2018 14:44

Are there lower rates of skin cancer thanks to headscarves, longsleeves etc?

Hefzi · 14/05/2018 15:04

Thanks so much for all on this thread: some fascinating things here.

Just a quick question: with hijab, must the throat also be covered? (I work a lot in places where it's helpful to cover my hair for various reasons - but I find it hugely hot even with a cotton scarf, so was just wondering if I tied it like a Jewish tichel if it would still be halal. Other tips gratefully received though!)

Mortallie · 14/05/2018 15:29

I have begun wearing a headscarf in winter, or on really windy days, if I am going to work, out for the evening, sometimes just to the shops!

I find it protects my hair, keeps it dry, stops it whipping all over the place in the wind, and then I don't turn up to work/Uni/social events looking like worzel gummage *I have very frizzy/awkward hair).

It has been lovely learning more about it as a religious symbol. Brilliant thread!

FastSlug · 14/05/2018 19:23

Hi lolli,

I am not sure if you were referring to my post, but to clarify, I certainly am not judging how you dress and admire how you have come to your decision and how you would support your daughter too. Flowers

Hefzi, I started off wearing the scarf in a similar style to the tichel and then gradually began wearing it the more conservative/traditional/mainstream way where the neck is also covered.

Sonny, as far as I know it is the mischievous jinns locked up, hence we can concentrate on ourselves during ramadan to gain taqwa, away from the whisperings of the shaytaan. What is scary though is that we only have ourselves to blame for our shortcomings

LokiBear · 14/05/2018 20:05

Sorry to hijack the thread; I'm holidaying in a Maritius this year, if love to visit a mosque and some of the Hindu temples. What us the ettiquete for covering my hair? I know to dress modestly; but should I wear a scalf to cover my hair?

Jesuisleloup · 14/05/2018 20:13

@tom in answer to your question about why she put it back on for the photo it is because men may see the photo of her without her scarf on and thus see her hair

asprinklingofsugar · 14/05/2018 21:36

Loki I'm not Muslim but I remember visiting a mosque on a school trip when I was 14 and we had to bring scarves and put them on before we were allowed to enter it. I'm not sure if it is a rule and if you would be refused entry if you didn't, or if it was a matter of respect - I just know that our teacher wouldn't take us in, until all the girls had covered their hair. I also can't remember what the boys did, but I vaguely recall something about hats? So, I reckon you probably should cover your hair if you visit a mosque. No idea about the Hindu temples though!

TomRavenscroft · 15/05/2018 13:16

Jesuisleloup, thanks for the response, but it sounds as though Tittys colleague doesn't mind about photos of her head uncovered being potentially visible to men (unless she has exclusively female/related-male social-media contacts, which I guess is possible).

Is it just a case of personal choice and some Muslim women mind this, some don't?

Jesuisleloup · 15/05/2018 13:58

@tomravenscourt

I think it shows that “rules” can be very much interpreted individually, especially in the West. In Islam (proper Islam not the ISIS rubbish) only God can judge a persons actions and it is a private dialogue between us and God

That’s how I have been taught anyway :)

TomRavenscroft · 15/05/2018 14:07

Yes, I thought that would be it, Jesuisleloup. Thanks!

Hefzi · 15/05/2018 18:35

@FastSlug thanks for the clarification! I'm working in quite conservative areas, so think I'd better stick to covering my neck as well - hijab is not my friend, though (fat face): in conservative colours, I look like a deeply malevolent nun... It may be time to brace the YouTube tutorials Grin

An advance Ramadan kareem, anyway, to the Muslimas on the thread

FastSlug · 15/05/2018 23:58

Hi Hefzi,

Honestly, don’t feel that you HAVE to wear a hijab. If you are working in a conservative area, then conservative wear without a scarf will do the job. If you’re feeling really daring, the weather is lovely so embrace your inner benevolent self and go bold colours in conservative attire. Grin Flowers

Closethegate · 16/05/2018 00:05

Ooooo I have a question from today!

I was at work and there was a woman walking down the stairs in front of me wearing a headscarf (not like a hijab though, more like a head wrap?) her neck was visible.

Anyway her hair had come down in the back and I didn’t know whether to tell her I could see her hair or not? Is it the hair that’s supposed to be covered or just the head in general?

fabulousfrumpyfeet · 16/05/2018 11:59

It is the hair that's meant to be covered, so she might have appreciated the headsup - though a head wrap could have been fashion or hair loss?

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