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...to ask about headscarf etiquette?

147 replies

HoneyBadgerApparently · 11/05/2018 20:43

Do Muslim women who chose to wear a headscarf wear it at home?

And if you don’t wear it at home, is it something you look forward to whipping off the minute you walk through the door before you get comfy (like I do with my bra Wink)

Asking purely out of curiosity.

OP posts:
firawla · 11/05/2018 23:16

Yes when it’s hot I’m always glad to whip mine off when I get in the door. Not as bothered during winter! I don’t wear at home unless we have workmen round or expecting guests etc etc

Giftwise, a warm welcome is the best thing! But choc or muffin sounds great, or Schloer as someone said. Personally at Ramadan I feel like we get dates over load as everyone vaguely related to the family seems to send a box of dates each and we end up with so many! So I would prefer the other items mentioned, although dates from a neighbour would be very thoughtful though!

ShadyLady53 · 11/05/2018 23:21

Abayas don’t strictly HAVE to be black but traditionally they are because black is seen as a formal, modest, neutral colour. It’s no different to wearing black at a funeral or because you are a drama student etc...black is the new black.

White or light colours are more practical and in many countries Muslim girls and women wear head to toe white or light garments. My Grandma who was of an Indian background was one of them.

Elusiveone · 11/05/2018 23:43

I think headscarves look so lovely and really pretty to. I often see muslim ladies with them on and they look so elegant.

Keepittenten · 12/05/2018 01:23

Yes to Medjool dates and thank you for the reminder pp about dates from non occupied lands.
Bottle of Schloer, chocolates/box of mixed Indian sweets/dessert all sound lovely.

I would love to try some of the tutorial styles, of wearing a headscarf, I have seen on YouTube. Although, I think Dina Tokio has used a t-shirt; duvet, hoodie, tea towel and whatever else has been handy to cover her head when filming 😂

MissEliza · 12/05/2018 07:46

Shady it's not a requirement.

fabulousfrumpyfeet · 12/05/2018 07:53

Yep mine comes off grey quickly in the house, funny that, because I don't notice it when I'm out but can't wait to get it off once I'm home. Also take off long dress and replace it with jeans. Muffins sound lovely - just explain they contain no animal products or alcohol.

fabulousfrumpyfeet · 12/05/2018 07:58

I agree with pps who have said the head scarf doesn't have to make you hot, you just need to choose the right fabric and it can be very cool. When I first starting wearing it it took me a while to get used to the fabric under my chin but now it's fine.

Dwellerfromunderthesink · 12/05/2018 08:49

Fabulous it’s a bit like that with bras too. Not often aware of them
Out the house but whipped off with relief when you get home

Sunflowersforever · 12/05/2018 09:46

What is an occupied land? Do you mean Israel?

blackbirddown · 12/05/2018 10:43

jinn are not evil spirits.
I've been to the toilet without covering my head for 30 years and the only thing that's attacked me is spiders.
And yes I'm Muslim.

Yorkshirebetty · 12/05/2018 13:01

I've never heard of djinn in the toilets before. My sister has gin. (sorry) Smile

LostMyBaubles · 12/05/2018 13:13

Another one that takes it off at home.

I wear it to prayer as does dh and most other muslim men I know.

Id rather be out of a bra than scarf off as pp has said scarf isnt uncomfy unlike my bras lol

Ive got very light scarves that I pull down a little over my eyes when its very sunny.

As for gifts. Anything prepacked from supermarket would be something id like to receive. I can check ingredients etc
Id be happy with a box of chocs!

When we moved to our new house a few years ago I gave some curry and rice to neighbours and have offered things when we've had a bbq etc
Never received anything back, ah well.

Sorry, didn't mean to sound contradicting!

You sound like a lovely neighbour. Im sure you'll get lots of goodies during ramadan

LostMyBaubles · 12/05/2018 13:14

And I dont wear my scarf in the loo.

Ive never heard of Jinn in the loos.
Here or abroad.
Ive heard of jinn in unoccupied places though

MereDintofPandiculation · 12/05/2018 13:24

I thought white was more sun repellent than black? It’s always surprised me that abayas are black. Wouldn’t white be cooler in hot countries? White is more reflective, black radiates heat better. So I can see that black might be better at radiating excess body heat. But never got to grips with this, and I notice we tend to wear black in winter and move to lighter colours in summer.

bsbabas · 12/05/2018 15:00

Turkish delight but not the cheap stuff

bsbabas · 12/05/2018 15:01

Sorry that was a reply to the present question

lljkk · 12/05/2018 18:55

One thing I've heard a lot is that in the conservative rich countries, it's common that as soon as folk get indoors they heave the abaya off & often underneath they've got skimpy little miniskirts & quite eye-popping minimal outfits on.

What bothers me is lack of Vitamin B that comes from covering up too much. 60% of Saudis & 90% of Qatarris are deficient, 95%+ Afghans are significantly deficient. Should not happen.

japanesegarden · 12/05/2018 19:41

I have an additional question, please: how do the women, mostly young ones, who wear hijab with some sort of big structure at the back under the scarf so that their face looks smaller and the actual shape of their skull is hidden under the covering, achieve it? That's a terribly written sentence, but hopefully my meaning is clear. Surely there must be some sort of framework, because it's much more padding than just hair could possibly provide. And if so, is it not quite uncomfortable? I have been wondering this for some time, but obviously it would be too rude to ask IRL. Thank you!

purpleviolet1 · 12/05/2018 20:14

Not read the whole thread but just wanted to say what a lovely thought OP re moving in present and thanks for being interested Grin

Japanese , tie hair in a bun and use a doughnut ring or this other thing which I can't remember the name of! I'll try and find a pic

purpleviolet1 · 12/05/2018 20:17

This! Just clips on and it gives volume

...to ask about headscarf etiquette?
japanesegarden · 12/05/2018 21:48

Thank you, purple! Looks much less trouble than I imagined, and I'm delighted to know the answer at last!

AlpacaLypse · 12/05/2018 21:55

@purpleviolet1 I have been wondering how this is achieved for ages! It's an amazing look. Thank you!!!

TeaStory · 12/05/2018 21:57

japanesegarden I wear a tichel and I have a “shaper” under my scarf. It’s a velvet headband with an attached cotton pocket which is stuffed to give volume and shape.

TeaStory · 12/05/2018 21:58

(And I don’t mind you asking!)

CottonSock · 12/05/2018 22:01

So interesting. Babba your detailed response was appreciated.
I spent time in Israel staying with a Jewish family and West Bank with a Muslim family, teaching English. So much to take in for my 18 year old self. I could have learnt so much more if I was mature enough to ask.
I remember the Muslim family cooking me special feasts and weighing me (good spirited)