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We’re all going on a WITCH HUNT! We’re not scared ...we persist. (Trump cont.)

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TheClaws · 08/05/2018 04:35

In response to one of Trump’s incoherent WITCH HUNT! tweets in the last 12 hours, Rep. Adam Schiff sent this:

Adam Schiff @RepAdamSchiff 12 hrs
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Adam Schiff Retweeted Donald J. Trump

Given all the secret meetings with the Russians, the denials, the false statements, and the guilty pleas, your attacks on the Republican, respected, decorated, Vietnam Veteran running the investigation could not be more false, or transparent.

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ohmymimi · 23/05/2018 11:30

'The world is missing an opportunity in allowing North Korea to unilaterally dismantle the site without having a chance to inspect it first ....'
amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/05/22/asia/north-korea-destroy-nuclear-site-intl/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

Gumpendorf · 23/05/2018 11:52

A motley crew of Clinton-era political stars including Rudy Giuliani, Alan Dershowitz and Mark Penn and a gaggle of pro-Trump House Republicans are hitting Capitol Hill, cable and the web to trash Mueller, the FBI and the media. https://www.axios.com/robert-mueller-investigation-conservative-media-white-house-trump-274a9763-414b-4414-a2a0-ae9b6f3429e2.html?utmsource=twitter&utmmmedium=twsocialshare&utmcampaign=organic

But no-one is cheerleading for Mueller.

ohmymimi · 23/05/2018 11:57

'During his speech at a pro-life gala tonight, President Trump gave a shoutout to “a beloved member of my administration”: Kellyanne Conway.'
'She’ll do the shows that nobody else dares go near.' INCLUDING YOU!!! Thought nobody.
www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-gives-kellyanne-conway-a-shoutout-shell-do-the-shows-that-nobody-else-dares-go-near/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
www.bustle.com/p/what-is-susan-b-anthony-list-trump-is-headlining-its-anti-abortion-gala-9167443
'Susan B Anthony List is an anti-abortion organization that works to elect politicians who will support their goal of getting Roe v Wade off the books. It believes Anthony would have been against abortion, though her actual views on it are not known.'
Oh, really? The woman who said this:
'Now, after 40 years of agitation, the idea is beginning to prevail that women were created for themselves, for their own happiness, and for the welfare of the world."

ohmymimi · 23/05/2018 12:17

Guess what he's been doing in executive time this morning. Wonder if Napolitano was on F and F:
mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump
'It’s clear that they had eyes and ears all over the Trump Campaign” Judge Andrew Napolitano'
'Look how things have turned around on the Criminal Deep State. They go after Phony Collusion with Russia, a made up Scam, and end up getting caught in a major SPY scandal the likes of which this country may never have seen before! What goes around, comes around!'
'Spygate could be one of the biggest political scandals in history'

lionheart · 23/05/2018 12:58

Busy today. I would not cross swords with Clapper. It will not end well.

Donald J. Trump
Verified account
@realDonaldTrump
58m58 minutes ago

Look how things have turned around on the Criminal Deep State. They go after Phony Collusion with Russia, a made up Scam, and end up getting caught in a major SPY scandal the likes of which this country may never have seen before! What goes around, comes around!

52m52 minutes ago
“It’s clear that they had eyes and ears all over the Trump Campaign” Judge Andrew Napolitano

41m41 minutes ago
SPYGATE could be one of the biggest political scandals in history!

33m33 minutes ago
Everybody is with Tomi Lahren, a truly outstanding and respected young woman!

21m21 minutes ago
“Trump should be happy that the FBI was SPYING on his campaign” No, James Clapper, I am not happy. Spying on a campaign would be illegal, and a scandal to boot!

Gumpendorf · 23/05/2018 13:34

This was obvious, but useful to get it from the horse's mouth:

www.cbsnews.com/news/lesley-stahl-donald-trump-said-attacking-press-to-discredit-negative-stories/

CBS @60Minutes correspondent Lesley Stahl says President Trump told her that he attacks the press to erode the public’s trust in journalists. Stahl says then-president elect Trump made the comments off camera right after the 2016 election cbsn.ws/2s0Jkxe twitter.com/CBSNews/status/999263552409096194/video/1

Lesley Stahl describes Trump’s answer after she once asked him about his constant attacks on the press: "He said, 'You know why I do it? I do it to discredit you all and demean you all so when you write negative stories about me, no one will believe you.'" www.cbsnews.com/news/lesley-stahl-donald-trump-said-attacking-press-to-discredit-negative-stories/

Gumpendorf · 23/05/2018 13:36

That's Brennan and Clapper he's gone for in the past 24 Hours.

I'm a bit scared about what will happen after tomorrow's briefing. They are never going to say 'ok then, that's fine'. Angry

ohmymimi · 23/05/2018 14:46

Haberman, NYT, on 'New Day'; excluding Dems. tomorrow is to avoid any counter narrative from 'Spygate' meeting:
mobile.twitter.com/NewDay/status/999272752673533952/video/1

Roussette · 23/05/2018 15:45

Just listening to Rachel Maddow on Clapper, she certainly tells it like it is

ohmymimi · 23/05/2018 16:45

'Spygate' - Enter Comey:
'Mr. Comey ......... responds to the president's tweets.'
mobile.twitter.com/costareports/status/999306930278535169

lionheart · 23/05/2018 16:59

Also Comey.

James Comey

Verified account

@Comey
2h2 hours ago

'Dangerous time when our country is led by those who will lie about anything, backed by those who will believe anything, based on information from media sources that will say anything. Americans must break out of that bubble and seek truth.'

lionheart · 23/05/2018 17:08

Manafort in court shortly today. That explains a lot.

thehill.com/policy/national-security/388959-manafort-to-ask-federal-judge-to-exclude-evidence-from-fbi-raids

lionheart · 23/05/2018 17:53

Oh dear.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44215656#

'Donald Trump's personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, received a secret payment of at least $400,000 (£300,000) to fix talks between the Ukrainian president and President Trump, according to sources in Kiev close to those involved.

The payment was arranged by intermediaries acting for Ukraine's leader, Petro Poroshenko, the sources said, though Mr Cohen was not registered as a representative of Ukraine as required by US law.

The meeting at the White House was last June.

Shortly after the Ukrainian president returned home, his country's anti-corruption agency stopped its investigation into Trump's former campaign manager, Paul Manafort.

A high-ranking Ukrainian intelligence officer in Mr Poroshenko's administration described what happened before the visit to the White House.

Mr Cohen was brought in, he said, because Ukraine's registered lobbyists and embassy in Washington DC could get Mr Poroshenko little more than a brief photo-op with Mr Trump. Mr Poroshenko needed something that could be portrayed as "talks".

This senior official's account is as follows - Mr Poroshenko decided to establish a back channel to Mr Trump. The task was given to a former aide, who asked a loyal Ukrainian MP for help.

He in turn used personal contacts in a Jewish charity in New York state, Chabad of Port Washington. This eventually led to Michael Cohen, the president's lawyer and trusted fixer. Mr Cohen was paid $400,000.

There is no suggestion that Mr Trump knew about the payment.

A second source in Kiev gave the same details, except that the total paid to Mr Cohen was $600,000.

There was also support for the account from a lawyer in the US who has uncovered details of Mr Cohen's finances, Michael Avenatti. He represents a porn actress, Stormy Daniels, in legal action against President Trump.

Avenatti said that Suspicious Activity Reports filed by Mr Cohen's bank to the US Treasury showed he had received money from "Ukrainian interests".

We spoke to Mr Cohen and to the two Ukrainians said to have opened the backchannel for their president - all three denied the story.

The senior intelligence official in Kiev also said Mr Cohen had been helped by Felix Sater, a convicted former mobster who was once Trump's business partner. Mr Sater's lawyer, too, denied the allegations. The Ukrainian president's office refused to comment.

As was widely reported last June, Mr Poroshenko was still guessing at how much time he would have with Mr Trump even as he flew to Washington.

The White House schedule said only that Mr Poroshenko would "drop in" to the Oval Office while Mr Trump was having staff meetings.

That had been agreed through official channels. Mr Cohen's fee was for getting Mr Poroshenko more than just an embarrassingly brief few minutes of small talk and a handshake, the senior official said. But negotiations continued until the early hours of the day of the visit.'

cozietoesie · 23/05/2018 18:34

Cohen - as with many others - can only really operate if he is officially 'in the shadows'. I guess he can't be there any more? Wink

lionheart · 23/05/2018 18:47

I think they are coming undone because their modus operandi just won't work anymore and they don't appear to have the wit to try something else.

cozietoesie · 23/05/2018 18:50

Their MO relied upon not being observed. That's no longer the case. Smile

ohmymimi · 23/05/2018 18:51

'JUST IN: Federal judge rules Pres. Trump can't block people from his Twitter account, saying such action violates the First Amendment.'

abcnews.go.com/amp/US/judge-rules-trump-block-people-twitter-account/story?id=55385889&__twitter_impression=true

lionheart · 23/05/2018 18:55

Thank goodness for sunlight. Smile

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