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We’re all going on a WITCH HUNT! We’re not scared ...we persist. (Trump cont.)

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TheClaws · 08/05/2018 04:35

In response to one of Trump’s incoherent WITCH HUNT! tweets in the last 12 hours, Rep. Adam Schiff sent this:

Adam Schiff @RepAdamSchiff 12 hrs
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Adam Schiff Retweeted Donald J. Trump

Given all the secret meetings with the Russians, the denials, the false statements, and the guilty pleas, your attacks on the Republican, respected, decorated, Vietnam Veteran running the investigation could not be more false, or transparent.

Previous thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3231026-Trumpwatch-Courage-Calls-to-Courage-Everywhere

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ohmymimi · 22/05/2018 18:11

'Cadre, a real estate technology startup co-founded and partly owned by White House senior adviser Jared Kushner, is discussing an investment of at least $100 million from a private fund that receives much of its capital from the governments of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, according to people familiar with the discussions.'

' "This kind of an arrangement, where a high-ranking U.S. government official can personally profit from a foreign government, is exactly why we filed the ethics complaint and it is exactly what the emoluments clause of the constitution was written to prevent,” said Virginia Canter, a lawyer at CREW. “If a foreign government wants to try to buy favors and influence U.S. policy, this is the way to do it.” '
www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2018-05-22/kushners-cadre-startup-said-to-seek-saudi-backed-softbank-funds?__twitter_impression=true

ohmymimi · 22/05/2018 18:33

Thread by @ilangoldenberg: "1. As someone who was part of diplomatic talks, this story on how Trump team screwed up China negotiations is a textbook case of nearly EVERY SINGLE THING you should NOT do. Bodes badly for North Korea summit.

9 tweets

threadreaderapp.com/thread/998867045503643648.html

ohmymimi · 22/05/2018 18:47

'Trump: “If they had spies in my campaign, that would be a disgrace to this country, that would be one of the biggest insults that anyone’s ever seen … It would make probably every political event ever look like small potatoes" (link: cnn.it/2IBE2m0) cnn.it/2IBE2m0 '
mobile.twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/998974113871028227
Endgame achieved:
'1. Generate theory

  1. Get people talking about theory
  2. Right-leaning media reports on people talking about theory
  3. President states that "many people are saying [theory]"
  4. Media reports on president's comment
  5. Everyone considers story verified'
mobile.twitter.com/qjurecic/status/998977922466795520
cozietoesie · 22/05/2018 19:19

23/2? That's a surprising indication of sentiment on the matter.

PerkingFaintly · 22/05/2018 19:28

More from lion's link:

Senate panel overwhelmingly approves amendment blocking Trump on ZTE
thehill.com/policy/technology/388791-senate-panel-overwhelmingly-approves-amendment-blocking-trump-on-zte

The Senate Banking Committee approved an amendment in an overwhelming and bipartisan 23-2 vote that would block Trump from easing sanctions on ZTE without first certifying to Congress that the company is complying with U.S. law.
[...]
The Department of Commerce barred U.S. businesses from selling to ZTE last month after it found that the company had lied to investigators looking into its business with Iran and North Korea.

The ban crippled ZTE, which is heavily reliant on U.S. suppliers, and forced the company to shutter its operations earlier this month.

ZTE and Huawei, another Chinese firm, have been the subject of intense scrutiny from the U.S. government. A 2012 report from Congress warned that the companies' technology could be used by the Chinese government to conduct surveillance on the U.S.

PerkingFaintly · 22/05/2018 19:45

The "could be used by the Chinese government to conduct surveillance on the U.S." is one of the bits that stands out to me, because my friends in the tech industry have been chin-stroking for a while about some Chinese tech products.

We know the Chinese government someone in China is throwing resources into offensive cyber warfare. ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberwarfare_in_China )

And unlike Russia, China's making huge quantities of tech which we blithely install in our homes, plug into our computers and allow inside our firewalls in a hundred ways, and which has the ability to phone home. Or will be plugged into a networked device which can be instructed to phone home.

Oh, and some of the companies which produce it (eg ZTE) are linked to the Chinese government.

Given all this, it would seem odd if some of this tech weren't being used by "someone in China" for surveillance.

lionheart · 22/05/2018 19:51

Stone has obviously decided to protect himself by doing things the old fashioned way. Smile

What a plan.

cozietoesie · 22/05/2018 21:58

I doubt it would disconcert Mr M's team much.

boatyardblues · 22/05/2018 22:22

I'm not keeping up with you guys, but still reading on slowpoke speed and grateful for your efforts. Wine

cozietoesie · 22/05/2018 23:21

I guess that Cohen is finished in 'business'. His options are sort of .........limited.

mackerella · 22/05/2018 23:30

Robert Kelly has posted an interesting counterpart to ohmymimi's @ilangoldenberg thread above (13 tweets, including another thread linked in the first one):

threadreaderapp.com/thread/998840959021473800.html

[Is Robert Kelly the one whose BBC interview was hijacked by his kids?]

cozietoesie · 22/05/2018 23:46

[I 'think' so.]

Moon just needs to talk a great deal about the PP................

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TheClaws · 23/05/2018 01:04

Adam Schiff @RepAdamSchiff
3h3 hours ago
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The White House has directed the DOJ and FBI to hold a partisan briefing on infomation the President wants given to his allies in Congress. No Democrats allowed.

This is another serious abuse of power. There’s a bipartisan mechanism called the Gang of 8. They need to use it.

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cozietoesie · 23/05/2018 01:11

That's game-playing. (Or 45 has fallen out seriously with Mitchell. Wink)

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TheClaws · 23/05/2018 01:20

Mr Mueller: “Can I ask you some questions?” Mr Trump: “Absolutely! Anything you want. Except about before the election, after the election, my finances, my lawyers, anything about my children, anything about foreigners, my current staff, my past staff, and my business dealings. You can ask about Obama and Hillary, though!”

thehill.com/policy/national-security/388903-trump-legal-team-seeking-to-limit-scope-of-mueller-interview-report

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cozietoesie · 23/05/2018 01:27

Tsk. Some questions about Obama and Hillary. Only some.

cozietoesie · 23/05/2018 01:42

Mr Colbert has the floor.

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TheClaws · 23/05/2018 03:06

Meanwhile in North Korea: a thoughtful opinion piece in Rodong Sinmun about the base strategies of the US. The June meeting is looking ever less likely as the days pass and the rhetoric becomes more stirring.

Red Herring Is U.S. Trite Method

Red herring is a trite trick of the U.S., master at plot-breeding, to bring down those countries incurring its displeasure. It has been proved by the history.
A clear proof of it is the Korean War in the 1950s.
After igniting the war, the U.S. became all the more pronounced in plot-breeding to lay the blame for it at the door of the DPRK by abusing the name of the United Nations. And it made desperate efforts to militarily occupy the whole of Korea by mobilizing the huge aggression forces including one third of its ground force, one fifth of its air force and most of its Pacific Fleet, armies of 15 satellite countries, south Korean forces and Japanese militarists.
But the U.S. was seriously defeated for the first time in the history.
The U.S. is now vociferating about the non-existent "human rights issue" of the DPRK. This is aimed to stifle the DPRK at any cost by inciting the atmosphere against it in the international arena. The U.S. and its vassal forces are conducting base red herring by mobilizing criminals and imposters, who are hurling mud at the DPRK after selling everything of human being for a petty amount of money and fabricating their names and careers.
The U.S. has persistently denied the reality of the DPRK in a bid to prevent the deceptive nature of its false propaganda from being brought to light.
All countries aspiring after the independence should remain vigilant against the U.S. red herring and resolutely smash it.

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