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We’re all going on a WITCH HUNT! We’re not scared ...we persist. (Trump cont.)

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TheClaws · 08/05/2018 04:35

In response to one of Trump’s incoherent WITCH HUNT! tweets in the last 12 hours, Rep. Adam Schiff sent this:

Adam Schiff @RepAdamSchiff 12 hrs
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Adam Schiff Retweeted Donald J. Trump

Given all the secret meetings with the Russians, the denials, the false statements, and the guilty pleas, your attacks on the Republican, respected, decorated, Vietnam Veteran running the investigation could not be more false, or transparent.

Previous thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3231026-Trumpwatch-Courage-Calls-to-Courage-Everywhere

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Natsku · 08/05/2018 10:55

Thanks for the new thread Claws love the title, can't wait to read Bear Hunt to Konsta.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/05/2018 11:19

Every time I start feeling sympathetic to Melania, I remember that she pursued the birther movement just as vigorously as Trump.

This was in response to that clip of Melania looking sunny and upbeat at Trump's inauguration when he turned to speak to her but downcast the moment he turned away, but is still relevant here I think:

www.teenvogue.com/story/melania-trump-supported-her-husbands-racist-birtherism-claims-on-tv

Lweji · 08/05/2018 11:29

I don't feel particularly sympathetic towards Melania. She knows what she married into and I suspect she had always known about his extra activities.
She doesn't seem particularly happy, regardless, but then neither does Trump as President.

Roussette · 08/05/2018 11:33

I have no sympathy for Melania whatsoever. She knew what type of man he was. The only time I could feel a bit sorry for her is when her worst nightmare became reality and he won the Election, apparently she was distraught. She didn't expect that, nor did anyone else.

However, she has managed to bring her parents and other family over to the US to live (chain migration that 45 so derided) and basically I think she has sold her soul for money. So she has to live with herself somehow.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/05/2018 11:47

It doesn't last very long, the sympathy - seeing Trump trying to grab her hand provokes a visceral reaction but rationally I know she's chosen this life. Particularly because as you say roussette she's supporting ending the mechanism of getting citizenship that she has availed herself of. I have little time for those that seek to pull up the ladder behind them, though it is a fairly common stance sadly.

Speaking of wives:

US military wives threatened by Russian hackers posing as IS
www.apnews.com/4d174e45ef5843a0ba82e804f080988f/Russians-posed-as-IS-hackers,-threatened-US-military-wives

lionheart · 08/05/2018 12:56

Just saw that Pain. It's vile.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/05/2018 13:28

Qatar eyes stake in Newsmax
The Persian Gulf state, owner of Al Jazeera, has sought to invest in the conservative news outlet with ties to Trump.

www.politico.com/story/2018/05/08/qatar-newsmax-ruddy-al-jazeera-trump-573242

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/05/2018 13:30

Trump calls on Congress to pull back $15 billion in spending, including on Children’s Health Insurance Program.

www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trump-calls-on-congress-to-pull-back-15-billion-in-spending-including-on-childrens-health-insurance-program/2018/05/07/9427de18-5216-11e8-a551-5b648abe29ef_story.html

AcrossthePond55 · 08/05/2018 13:49

Thanks for the new and aptly titled thread, Claws

'Going on a Bear Hunt' is a popular children's 'clapping song' here in the US. I remember it from Girl Scouts and used to sing/clap it with my children.

PerkingFaintly · 08/05/2018 13:58

Fixed link, I hope. This is incredibly sinister.

US military wives threatened by Russian hackers posing as IS
www.apnews.com/4d174e45ef5843a0ba82e804f080988f/Russians-posed-as-IS-hackers,-threatened-US-military-wives

“Dear Angela!” the Facebook message read. “Bloody Valentine’s Day!”

“We know everything about you, your husband and your children,” the message continued, claiming that the hackers operating under the flag of Islamic State militants had penetrated her computer and her phone. “We’re much closer than you can even imagine.”

Ricketts was one of five military wives who received death threats from the self-styled CyberCaliphate on the morning of Feb. 10, 2015. The warnings led to days of anguished media coverage of Islamic State militants’ online reach.

Except it wasn’t IS.

The Associated Press has found evidence that the women were targeted not by jihadists but by the same Russian hacking group that intervened in the American election and exposed the emails of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign chairman, John Podesta.
[...]
Proof that the military wives were targeted by Russian hackers is laid out in a digital hit list provided to the AP by the cybersecurity company Secureworks last year. The AP has previously used the list of 4,700 Gmail addresses to outline the group’s espionage campaign against journalists , defense contractors and U.S. officials . More recent AP research has found that Fancy Bear, which Secureworks dubs “Iron Twilight,” was actively trying to break into the military wives’ mailboxes around the time that CyberCaliphate struck.

Lee Foster, a manager with cybersecurity company FireEye, said the repeated overlap between Russian hackers and CyberCaliphate made it all but certain that the groups were linked.

“Just think of your basic probabilities,” he said.

CyberCaliphate faded from view after the TV5 Monde hack, but the over-the-top threats issued by the gang of make-believe militants found an echo in the anti-Muslim sentiment whipped up by a St. Petersburg troll farm — an organization whose operations were laid bare by a U.S. special prosecutor’s indictment earlier this year.

The trolls — Russian employees paid to seed American social media with disinformation — often hyped the threat of Islamic State militants to the United States. A few months before CyberCaliphate first won attention by hijacking various media organizations’ Twitter accounts, for example, the trolls were spreading false rumors about an Islamic State attack in Louisiana and a counterfeit video appearing to show an American soldier firing into a Quran .

The AP has found no link between CyberCaliphate and the St. Petersburg trolls, but their aims appeared to be the same: keep tension at a boil and radical Islam in the headlines.

By that measure, CyberCaliphate’s targeting of media outlets like TV5 Monde and the military spouses succeeded handily.

Ricketts, the author, said that by planting threats with some of the most vocal members of the military community, CyberCaliphate guaranteed maximum press coverage.

“Not only did we play right into their hands by freaking out, but the media played right into it,” she said. “We reacted in a way that was probably exactly what they were hoping for.”

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/05/2018 14:32

Arab youth see the U.S. as an enemy

www.axios.com/arab-youth-see-us-as-an-enemy-a4415c65-e096-4904-b32e-921ef54651a6.html

We’re all going on a WITCH HUNT! We’re not scared ...we persist. (Trump cont.)
cozietoesie · 08/05/2018 15:01

The sad thing is that - officially, at least - 45 won't care.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/05/2018 15:11

Argh just realised it was the wrong attachment! Will try again

We’re all going on a WITCH HUNT! We’re not scared ...we persist. (Trump cont.)
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/05/2018 15:12

I give up! The graph is included in the link

cozietoesie · 08/05/2018 15:13

Which is where I saw it. Smile

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/05/2018 15:16

It was just such a stark graphic, illustrating explicitly how much things had changed in two years, that I wanted it posted on here as well so people could see without clicking on the link!

But yes, click away Grin

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/05/2018 15:18

Sally Yates returns to Atlanta-based law firm to focus on investigations

www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/sally-yates-returns-to-atlanta-based-law-firm-to-focus-on-investigations/2018/05/07/b9833134-522b-11e8-9c91-7dab596e8252_story.html

cozietoesie · 08/05/2018 15:26

So be it.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/05/2018 15:37

U.S. Voting System Remains Vulnerable 6 Months Before Election Day. What Now?

www.npr.org/2018/05/08/599452050/the-u-s-voting-system-remains-vulnerable-6-months-before-election-day-what-now

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/05/2018 15:38

Defector: WikiLeaks ‘Will Lie to Your Face’
He was a true believer in Julian Assange and his secret-spilling operation—until he realized what Assange’s grand plan really was.

www.thedailybeast.com/defector-wikileaks-will-lie-to-your-face

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/05/2018 15:51

More of the same re:Giuliani

Trump not sold on Giuliani defense
edition.cnn.com/2018/05/08/politics/rudy-giuliani-donald-trump/index.html

cozietoesie · 08/05/2018 16:15

Thanks for that, lion. Interesting. Smile

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