Tracking DP on phone

[damekindness]

I was talking to some work colleagues today and it came up in conversation that they got their OH to turn on their 'share location' on their mobiles so they could see where they were. Apparently it's useful to know so they can get the dinner on the table ready for them

Aside from the whole being a domestic dinner slave issue, I think asking your OH to share their location so they can be tracked is a massive invasion of privacy. However the counter argument was that if they didn't have anything to hide they shouldn't mind....

If people had this enabled maybe we could find more missing persons, like the missing Airman (CM) or at least have a search start point

Nice idea in theory, but why stop there - no different to microchipping all humans, really.
Get a chip stuck in us all so we can be tracked all the time..... wait,you all do that of your own free will anyway...

user1491414509 How did he track where you were?

This is partly why we embrace the option, by having ‘find my friends’ enabled. The thought of Apple, national intelligence etc being able to potentially track my every move makes me feel way more creeped out than my husband knowing where I am. It’s rare we use it, but it is handy. (If either of us turns off 3G/4G though then that disables the ‘find my friend’. This doesn’t then fill me with paranoia that he’s off having fun without me though, he’s just conserving his data allowance)

my umbilical cord fell off 59 years ago

So sorry to hear you haven’t spoken to your parents or any other family in all that time or shared any information about your own life with them since that day. That must have been tough.

it's a tracking spying device however you try to justify it.

How so?

The person being tracked knows the tracker is there, and are not obligated to take it with them - after all, it's not sewn into the hem of their coat when they have it dry cleaned or inserted under their skin while they are under anaesthetic

It on a phone - they know it's there - and they have control of turning it off or leaving the device elsewhere.

Hardly spying, is it?!?

A friend was telling me last weekend that she uses it with her partner so they know if the other has left work.

It wouldn't bother me if my partner wanted to be able to track where I was. In reality I could be 3 hours late home from work and he'd just say, 'I left you some dinner' .

It’s no more ‘spying’ that phoning someone up and asking them what time they’ll be home! But I’d rather not so that when I know someone is behind the wheel and it could be a distraction.... and yes, the person being called would have activated this setting so is happy to have it used, in the same way they’d be happy to answer the phone if they could (which they can’t, as driving, which is why we use it in the first place).

Not difficult to understand really. I’d much rather my family can easily see where I am when they need to rather than ringing when I may not be able to answer.... I find it bizarre that people consider this some sort of spy/control conspiracy between partners.

It’s no more ‘spying’ that phoning someone up and asking them what time they’ll be home!

Yes it is, because you can do it without informing the person that you are asking that question.

This is the shiny new tech that people justify until the next clandestine Cambridge Analytica/Facebook stuff kicks off in the future and everyone cries fowl.

All that willfully submitted geolocation data is not just for your benefit, you can brush it off as your to unimportant and in the next breath unironically complain that Alexa/Facebook/Google home are secretly recording all your phone calls/conversations to push you some advert.

I have used “Find iPhone” on my OH. And yeah, he had something to hide alright. We got past it and I don’t use it now, but if he gave me a moment of doubt, yes I’d use it again. I don’t want to have to be like that, but I refer to the old adage of fool me once, shame on you - fool me twice, shame on me. Looking at it the other way around, I couldn’t care less if he checks on me.

The person is pre-informed, because that’s what you’re doing when you consent to enabling the app.

If it’s enabled without your knowledge though then that is stalking.

The person is pre-informed, because that’s what you’re doing when you consent to enabling the app.

From the OP:

I was talking to some work colleagues today and it came up in conversation that they got their OH to turn on their 'share location' on their mobiles so they could see where they were.

Switch the genders and this thread would have gone down a completely different direction

Yes it is, because you can do it without informing the person that you are asking that question.

They have given consent to asking that kind of question at any point by using those settings and specifically allowing you access, so no, it isn’t any different at all. It’s merely shiny new tech, as you describe, that makes the aforementioned scenario easier and safer for both parties (no handsfree at the wheel, no ringing on a bike etc...)

They have given consent to asking that kind of question at any point by using those settings and specifically allowing you access,

The slippery slope argument to that is someone coming on here and posting that her DH will not give consent to such a thing, it will then be met with nothing to hide nothing to fear and if we switched the genders it would be considered controlling and he should accept boundaries.

It is a form of spying and control that has become more common place with the creep of new tech, and as I said before this new tech isn't for your benefit, getting you to turn the function on is how the perceive the benefit

I can totally see the aspects of ‘big brother’ tech etc being referred to, and I can also see how it can be abused, but for many of us - as evidenced by this thread - it’s a very practical bit of kit that offers a lot of good. I wholeheartedly agree that if a person doesn’t wish to consent to it then that should be absolutely supported, without cries of foul. It is a personal choice that works for some and not for others. But those of us that do use it, and find it beneficial aren’t some sort of psycho-family who ‘need’ to know where everyone is 24/7 as some posters seem to suggest. It’s not creepy to want to know what time is best to put the oven on, or if I’ve got time to wrap Christmas presents before someone gets home.

DH sends his location for an hour when he cycles home from work. I can make sure we eat as early as possible and the DC like looking at the map as they wait in the window for him. The location tracker isn't on permanently, just for a preset time limit of his choosing.

I'm definitely in the minority here but I don't care if Apple / the government want to track my location. I don't care if my tech spies on me in order to show me adverts for things I may want to buy. I prefer targeted ads in fact. I was talking about something on WhatsApp with my friend then saw a related ad on Facebook 10 minutes later, couldn't care less. I would be happy with there being a lot more CCTV, I think it both discourages crime and makes it easier to trace perpetrators of it. The government are welcome to read my texts and emails if they want, they won't find anything interesting there but help yourself.

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I can’t see what the problem is, if you don’t want it don’t have it though

@Oysterbabe

Your not in the grand scheme of things, people are ambivalent at best but generally ignorant as to why these features are pushed. We did used to cope without knowing how long someone was into their journey to or from work etc, technology has improved our lives so much but also impacted on our personal freedoms.

Don't get me wrong, I am far from a luddite as I work for one of the big 3 tech firms gladly hoovering up everyones willfully given up data to store and analyse for our projects.

Deep down the functionality of the app is to "spy" on someone, it has been sold a reason as to why this is useful, people are happy with that but to deny there is not a monetary/analytical value on that and it was just done for altruistic measures is not understanding tech.

*From the OP:

I was talking to some work colleagues today and it came up in conversation that they got their OH to turn on their 'share location' on their mobiles so they could see where they were.

Switch the genders and this thread would have gone down a completely different direction*

Where does it say the gender of the colleagues?

Where does it say the gender of the colleagues?

Fair enough I jumped the gun and you are going down the semantic route, but I am not making a hyperbolic argument to suggest that if someone came on here saying her OH wanted her to turn on the share location service so he could see where she was this thread would not have gone a different way.

Conversely, as so many on here are happy with it, then the slippery slope is that someone wants their other half to share location but they do not want to, the argument then goes into nothing to hide nothing to fear.

Nobody should force anyone else to switch this sort of thing on. Anyone who makes a fuss if their partner doesn’t want to enable it does have trust/control issues. However, if it’s mutual consent, and there are options to switch off location sharing whenever you want, then I really don’t see the problem.

We use location sharing, although it's rare either of us actually look at it unless necessary. For example, dp was doing a charity bike ride and I wanted to know how far away from the finish line he was so I knew when to go wait for him. For me it is also peace of mind that should I be out at night and anything were to happen to me, dp knows where I am.
It boils down to trust, we have solid trust and it isn't used to keep tabs on each other. We don't have time for that!

@Just so in all the couples and families who have find my friends, are you saying that in each case the woman’s suggested it? Of course the man might have suggested it too.
Being forced to do it by either person is a different issue but I disagree that everyone would automatically go against a man suggesting it because for many of us that might have been the case. I think dh might have suggested it to me after he put ds on so we could track him on his first solo trip to the shop.

my DP to obsessively track my movement
Why do people throw the 'obsessively' in?
There's nothing obsessive about it. It's only stalkerish or an invasion of privacy if you aren't happy to do it.
DH and I share our location with each other. It's not often either of us use it but it is really useful when we are meeting each other.
There are no downsides for us. No anxiety issues, no trust issues. Where we are isn't something either of us feel the need to keep private from each other.
Teenage kids don't have it on because they do need privacy.

I absolutely detest about the reliance we now have on smartphones.
I am reliant on my phone. I am severely sight impaired, my phone has made the world more accessible than it ever has been. This feature helps even more. I have another app that I use when meeting friends that shares locations for short periods of time.

People drive themselves batty checking.
Where are the posts that describe this?
It's all in the imagination of people who don't approve.
It's very easy to switch off at any time if you want to.