#AD

[MintyT]

I don't know about you, but since the instamums posts I have really noticed the #AD on posts, and to be honest I had no idea I was so gullible. I loved the threads regards instamums and really think MN made a small change, well done us

I think they are still reeling that they can't control MN, NovichoksAway. I think that's it in a nutshell.

There are other almost totally unmoderated forums that discuss influencers, so perhaps the instamums should be careful for what they wish for?

Also I don't really think it's 'bullying' if it's something you have to actively seek out.

It's not like Instamums are continuously being sent horrible messages by MN users - they just clearly can't resist coming on here to see what people are saying about them.

Also for all their saying that mn is horrible and Instagram is lovely not a day goes by where one of them doesn't screenshot a horrible message they've received from an insta follower.

That's a very valid point, Mediocre, I've never left a negative comment on an influencer's grid.

I vote with my feet instead: so I looked at which accounts liked the #dearmumsnet posts. I may or may not continue following them, but I'll never like a post or leave a positive comment for them again.

Instagram is quite democratic in that way.

I would never leave a negative comment on IG either because they have made the conditions so hostile to anyone who does that it’s not worth the grief. Which is another way of controlling the message.

Can you just for a moment imagine being an instamum at school pick up?

You don't know if the other mothers are chatting to you because they are Instagram social climbers and want a leg up.

You don't know whether they discuss you in a private chat group and are fishing for juicy insider info.

You don't know if they are a poster on MN or elsewhere who has publicly expressed criticism about your account.

You don't know if your kids are invited to birthday parties because they are popular or you are the intended entertainment for the parents.

You have to brief your children before play dates as to what can be disclosed due to contractual obligations.

And we are regularly accused of being 'jealous'??

FFS, I'm a troll now for having a differing opinion?!
People are allowed to disagree. Do you even know what a troll is? (Clue, it's not someone who has a different opinion to you.)
The flippant tone in my posts on this thread are because people take the hump if you post sensibly so thought I'd join in the tone.
It's only what everyone else is doing.

Ffs I’ve just looked at Natasha’s latest vague instastory. What a load of nothingness. I hate the fake laughing as if to say, look how much this has blown up. It hasn’t, it hasn’t taken off one little bit! It’s all getting beyond ridiculous now. On the subject of ‘bullying’ I saw a story by Susie the other day which verged on bullying and was complete and utter piss taking. This is just going nowhere fast. How many times does it need to be said that mumsnet is pretty heavily policed and any bullying or unnecessary behaviour is removed swiftly. Also, trolls? Don’t they make shit up? No need for Natasha to be so upset for their children!

How is the instagram policed?

I’d love it if you could be specific and also answer all responses to you when people have gone to the trouble of responding to you.
Eg I asked you many posts ago what your view of NB’s campaign is. Am interested to know your thoughts

Sorry, only just seen this bit (clarifying for the bolding haters that it's for ease only so people know which bit I'm referring to)
Hmm.
On the face of it,the campaign could come across as abrasive and "shutting down" to some.
However, they do have a point. Someone on here pointed out there is rational posters on here and it's full of rational points (can't remember who, sorry) and I'll agree, there is.
It's not a hive mind on here though, there's going to be several viewpoints.
There's the rational posters, the ones genuinely interested in a proper discussion, and then there's also a really unpleasant, nasty tone from other ones.
Is it surprising that they're wanting to call out the latter type?

Oohhh - never heard of NB before she started this strange campaign, presumably to grow her audience, but have just looked at her Story. She wants Mumsnet to be better? What? No democracy, no debate, no dissent - maybe she would like to write a list of rules for us. Amazing how some people just don't understand how these things work - but possibly explains the size of her Insta compared to the few thousand more on MN. I haven't followed this thread too much as it moves so fast but I do welcome the input of Cady and Fence - it is the debate, the disagreement that makes this a valuable place to come. Really hope MN don't engage with such shameless, obvious self-promotion. I am now off to find a mirror to see what a troll looks like as that seems to be the name for anyone she disagrees with.

...... Can confirm I am a moderately attractive middle aged troll maman. (And as I live in France I really can be a maman!)

..... and I am a troll a lol a lol according to my precious little angel.

How many times does it need to be said that mumsnet is pretty heavily policed

Is it? I wouldn't say heavily policed, more like moderated and only coming in when people start flinging stuff at each other or whatever to say "ahem" or "calm it down" but otherwise treat people like adults and let them crack on. Having to remove if things start to get out of hand.
I'd say things get removed if they get reported, but that relies on members reporting them in the first place. If it's a gossip type thread like this one is for some, it's less likely to get pulled up as people are all in agreement with each other until someone with a differing viewpoint comes along.

'Can you just for a moment imagine being an instamum at school pick up?'

Oh, yes, I can. I am one. I've experienced it the other way. It's pretty disgusting some of the lengths some women go to to shame me, talk sh*t about my kids, it's pretty gross, tbh.

But, they feel like they can, because i'm public. I'm 'out there'. Oh, really? Try and be a human being, maybe. Have some class.

Before you jump on me, NO, I'm not an Instasleb, so don't get your knickers in a bunch. I have a fair following, but nowhere near these women. I don't get free things. I'm an author. And still, the judgey-brigade and the parent police LOVE to show their true colours, online AND in person.

I also welcome the input of Cady.

I disagree though that a thread like this is less likely to get pulled up. This is a public forum so if any personal attacks are made the person is either on the thread or reading them (as we know) so they can report them and have them removed (which as we also know is happening). I have self reported my own posts in the past as well and had them removed when I felt I had strayed over a line (never had one removed otherwise - yet). Everyone has their own lines though, and I think the MN TGs do a fair job of providing guidance whilst allowing robust debate at the same time.

I made the choice to have a public profession and be on IG publicly. Should that mean that I'm subjected to whatever crap is thrown my way, and thrown at and about my kids?

No. So, I repeat: don't be a d*ck to people, or about people. Simple.

I wonder though then what anyone would suggest mumsnet actually do?! That's missing from this supposed 'campaign'.

Why don't the campaigners be a bit more specific. Do they want every post moderated before it goes live?! Do they want each and every thread read my a mumsnet staff member to check it's ok?!

Both those options sound very unrealistic tbh.

@MarvelleGazelle! We agreed? I almost fainted. lol

But yes, I agree the use of the term 'bully' has got to stop. It's bandied about really carelessly, and it has its own repercussions.