Hooters

[Thirtyrock39]

Would you be pissed off if your partner went to one of these sleazy places? Am I overreacting to be pissed off about dh going to one when he knew I'd be cross about it ? I'm not hopping mad but I'm certainly very unimpressed!

There’s one Hooters in the UK, in Nottingham. It’s remarkably convenient for a huge number of hotels, and serves amazing wings.

Good summary noble

Hooters is great! Best chicken wings you can get!! I dragged my husband when I found out there was one in Tenerife when we went a few years ago and he was shocked at how covered up the waitresses were! They wear hot pant like shorts but a lot wear tights with them and the vest tops aren't even very low cut especially compared to some you would buy in shops here to wear on a daily basis. If there was one in Scotland I would go and would have no problem taking the kids!

Didn't realise they had to be naked for it to be classed as sexism @knowledgeofnone

They may be covered up but the clothes are so skin tight and made of flimsy material that they leave little to the imagination.

If you can't see why anyone would object to a sports bar that is basically called Tits with a logo that oh so cleverly incorporates tits into the design, and that markets itself with reference to Hooters Girls...well, maybe you need to pause for a second and engage your brain

the former two magic words will often be invoked in any situation where the latter occurs, it seems

That's complete rubbish though, isn't it? And you know it.

This thread...all the attempts to sound oh-so-chill about women being paid to get leered at by sweaty, chicken-stained blokes and trying to sound cool and zeitgeist-y about it.

It's the opposite: you simply sound like dinosaurs, trying to cling on by your fingertips to your God-given right to leer at women without many clothes on.

If most places of work only judged people for what they looked like and the requisite was that they had to be young, female, slim and pretty I'm sure most people would agree that is flat out sexism. Surely half the population would be unemployed if this was the case?

It’s absolutely gross, foul and outdated.

To answer the op.

If it was a night out someone else had planned and my DH was going along and it was there I'd be fine with it. He's been once in a stag night.

If he was just going there all the time on his own I'd be a bit . Even if it was close to the hotel!

Owl - according to Bazza it's fine as long as you 'give your other half one' at the end of the day!

I must say I'm very much like OP in hating page 3, glamour modelling etc but I've kind of calmed down a bit over the years about it.
I would not be impressed by DH going to one but he never goes anywhere without me (his choice) so it's unlikely to happen anyway. Having said that, I just checked them out as wasn't sure what they wear, and tbh they are a lot more covered up than, say, a Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader,😁 and I can't imagine women banning their husbands from going to matches, etc.. Or refusing to go to the beach because there are women in thongs everywhere.
All in all I don't think it's terrible but a husband ignoring a wife's wishes is a twit-imo- if the, ahem, wings are worth an unhappy mrs when they finally get back home... Leave it to the single blokes. Peace... 💛

I'd be appalled but I'm ugly and don't wear vests and hot pants as my peak season uniform so it's to be expected

If you can't see why anyone would object to a sports bar that is basically called Tits with a logo that oh so cleverly incorporates tits into the design, and that markets itself with reference to Hooters Girls...well, maybe you need to pause for a second and engage your brain

This, oh and I've never felt the need to calm down about page 3, it was all about objectification of women, and I wont be calm about that.

I'm hoping for a world where this sort of place doesn't exist, but I'm guessing while it makes money, it will exist. Same for lap dancing/stop clubs etc.

Cannot really add more to the argument, but I found this picture fits my views on it.

I have stayed in a hotel in Nottingham. We managed to find places to eat without entering Hooters. Fancy that!

I must say I'm very much like OP in hating page 3, glamour modelling etc but I've kind of calmed down a bit over the years about it

We're all different, aren't we?

Over the years, I get more and more aware and angry about it. Since having children, I am keenly aware of how women are represented and the shortcomings of society in being so complacent about the inequality and sexual objectification that is everywhere; every single day.

I owe to my children to do what I can to give them a level playing field, to the best of my ability and never to shrug and say, 'Ah well. Yeah, that's the way of the world. Sod it, eh?'

I want them to know that they don't have to accept inequality and sexist expectations, that they owe it to the next generation of women to try to do something to improve the landscape for all women.

Some attitudes on here are quite something. There are heads so far in the sand, it's wonder they can manage to eat all of that crappy, nasty chicken.

As someone else said I don't see how you can past the name.

I think it's a tacky and dated American idea that they tried to get it to take off over here and thank god it hasn't. There was one in Bristol and one in Cardiff that I know of and both closed - presumably because the business model doesn't work over here.

Culturally there is a difference between the US and UK. I watch some American comedies and films and often there's a common theme going through them and one of those themes is the male fantasy about their girlfriend dressing up as a school girl. Amy did it in Big Bang Theory. I've seen it often. It's just so dated and I class Hooters and Bunny Girls etc as that. Just unnecessary in this day and age and it's setting women backwards. There's no point even trying to explain it if you don't get it automatically you'll never get it.

First sentence should have said I don't see how you can get past the name.

SheGotBetteDavisEyes That's complete rubbish though, isn't it? And you know it.

Nope, it is based on years of experience. I'll admit I haven't figured out all the rules. I am not sure, for example, whether a male just looking at a female and thinking she is pretty (or synonym) is objectification. But if he goes into specifics about her legs/breasts/bum he definately is. But we still have it that person A finding person B physically attractive is objectification.

Objectification is also a term that will be applies to pretty much any situation where the purpose or intention is to enhance someone's physical attractiveness. Or a situation intended for people to enjoy that in others.

For instance I have seen women described as self-objectifying because they wear low-cut topsc or other revealing clothes.

So as I say, those pejoratives get used pretty much if someone is finding someone else physically attractive, and against the things which make that more likely to occur.

It can also be used if someone expresses a sexual interest in another. Aparantly saying "I would" about someone you find attractive is objectification according to some.

These are just my observations. It can be used as a pejorative to make people out as guilty and wrong for having normal human interests.

oh you do like the word pejorative don't you? Did you think it would confuse our lady brains?
oh and yes 'saying 'I would' is fucking vile - hth

Didn't realise "pejorative" was meant to be some sort of obscure or difficult-to-understand word.

If most places of work only judged people for what they looked like and the requisite was that they had to be young, female, slim and pretty I'm sure most people would agree that is flat out sexism.

In most professions that sort of thing is irrelevent to your ability to do the job. Things like acting and modelling are not like most jobs though. I believe the technical point is that they are models who serve food. In principle, if it matters to the role, then I do not think it sexist or ageist or anything else.

Of course you do not have to agree with modelling, of any form.

If you want good chicken wings in Nottingham you need to get yourself to Bunk. There's no need to go anywhere near hooters.

I used to clutch pearls at the thought of hooters. Till one day on a work trip to Chicago, 7 male colleagues persuaded me to watch a game there “the wings are good” I went, literally the only female customer in the place, the waitresses swarmed me! They were like thank god! They were hugely normal, friendly and just trying to earn a living, and they took no shit from the men. The wings were excellent.
Ok it wouldn’t be my first choice of venue, and it’s an outdated chauvinist nightmare, but I recon in 5 years “poof” will be gone, and really wasn’t sleazy at all. Yabu.