To increasingly find hippies more annoying

[lankylisa]

I grew up with hippy parents and have always ended up befriending slightly hippy alternative people. Now I'm older, I'm finding hippies to be:
-good at bad science
-judgemental of people who dare to want to be materially comfortable
-pious
-immoral when it comes to relationships / using spiritual bs to justify treating people badly
-smug
-dull
-closed
-middle class but scruffy

Does anyone else know what I mean?

Reading this back am horrified that I sound so conservative!

I don’t think you sound conservative. Just a bit of a judgemental twat. If you don’t like hippy type people stop bloody befriending them.

That really made me smile yup sounds about right.
But my hippy friends are also a lot of fun and do throw a good party. We've learnt to take things they say with a pinch of salt. I guess that's why we're not hippies!

IMO everybody is judgemental about other people in one way or another. I freey admit that I judge people, and I don't believe those that say they never do. Just by accusing someone of being judgemental is being judgemental isn't it?

I agree with the OP. I have an acqaintance who likes to think she is "alternative", and she judges anyone who isn't

@stop
I know I could see the irony as I typed but just have to vent somewhere!
Also not befriending any more.

when the kids of my ultra hippy friends go into consulting jobs after they leave oxbridge, I know that the worm has turned

We have friends who continually criticise our usage of 'stuff' that isn't perceived to be natural or biodegradeable. In the past month we've had sneery comments on:
Bathroom hand wash
Toilet cleaner
Tinfoil
Paper towels
Tupperware
Artificial fibre rug
Ant killer
Meat

The bathroom stuff is as natural as you can get and paper towels are recycled variety (and used rarely) but sneered at because we use it at all.

It's exhausting. I'm constantly scouring the house before they come anxious that I own something that is perceived to be environmentally unfriendly.

everybody is judgemental about other people in one way or another

but do you show your judgmentalness to the people you are judging?

Most of the examples above it isn't just judgemental, it is downright rude.

@Nakedavenger74 Why on earth do you let these people into your house?

"but do you show your judgmentalness to the people you are judging

Of course not. I keep my opinions to myself. I admit that I judge my very overweight diabetic sister when she tucks into a cream tea (and finishes mine), but I never say anything, as she is an adult perfectly capable of making her own decisions.

Yanbu! Totally agree. I also grew up with hippy parents so totally get you. 'Hippies' now seem to just be self obsessed / privileged / lacking in empathy with anyone who is not them. Drives me nuts!

I have a hippy type couple as friends who are constantly borrowing (well, using and not replacing) my stuff. They seem to subscribe to a communal/sharing philosophy which involves taking all my stuff, but never having anything that i might want back. Very one sided, but she has a heart of gold and is fun to be around, so i wryly smile as i hand over whatever it is she needs, from bathroom scales, to loo rolls, to the use of my car on occasion, (to be fair, i did get the car back...but the diesel was missing).

Oh YES! Me me me me me!!

Middle class yet scruffy - hahaha yep!
Full o’ utter shite to justify one self-centred relationship car crash after another - check!
Smug about people who actually sustain themselves with money that they earn - bingo!
Look down at people who have children - oh yes.

I used to be close to my hippy friend. But nowadays I feel like an utter right wing middle aged establishment figure when I think about how we have turned out. My 15 yr old sees right through her!

That said..... her life is fertile ground for hours of hilarious chat among my normal friends. So I forgive it all. It’s hilariously entertaining. The world would be duller without them.

I completely agree. Those who call themselves hippies also tend, in my experience, to be totally loaded and had a very privileged upbringing, or have rich parents to bail them out when they quit another job because they didn't want to be a wage slave or, more likely, could e be arsed to get up before mid day.

Yes I judge. I'm not bitter or jealous - my upbringing was just as privileged. I particularly judge when they are rude and look down on people who work for low wages or for corporations who they don't view as ethical enough. They may claim that there's more to life than money or material things, but it's only people who have money who actually say those things.

Well heaven forfend anyone be middle class and scruffy! Scruffy is only allowed for the bin men and the aristocracy don'cha know.

I'm totally with you OP. I grew up in a provincial town where being a hippy was more or less mandatory and I absorbed a lot of it as at teenager. It's taken me until middle age to realise what a lot of hypocritical shit a lot of it is.

The original hippy ethos was understandable as it was pushing back against a very conservative and authoritarian postwar society which needed shaking up.

And there are some philosophies associated with the movement which are genuinely important ecological sustainability for example. But most of the hippies I come across haven't really taken the trouble to read about or understand the issues they preoccupy themselves with.

Modern day hippiness is largely just jumping on a series of trendy but poorly thought-out bandwagons based on poorly understood science (GM foods hysteria/organic food/gving things up purely for the sake of it), making people feel bad about wanting to improve themselves and judging their lifestyles.

Oh, and in my experience they are almost universally people who don't have to support themselves financially as they are living either on family money or welfare so don't have to concern themselves with tedious details like economics.

Probably very judgey, but I stand by every word.

I'm a hippy who is spiritual and a little alternative but work full time and live in the real world. I just have different interests to most.

I struggle with airy fairy types who look at me daft when I explain I can't devote my entire life to finding myself as I have to work and pay the bills. Fair enough to live as you want if it doesn't harm anybody but we live in a physical world.

It’s a life style choice for many

And most people who choose a certain life style have money behind them

I'm glad I'm not the only one.

I do find it so irritating having to justify the fact that I like watching TV and I (shock horror) let my toddler watch TV. The list is endless but where I used to subscribe to a lot of hippyishness because of my upbringing, thinking that hippies were always reliably kind, I'm now discovering as an adult that they tend to be stingy, privileged and just irritating.

I never know when to start when one of them starts telling me about someone's "energy"

AND don't get me started on the casual weed smoking/ casual drug taking then the ensuing complaints about crippling anxiety and depression (usually blamed on their parents)

NEWS FLASH... Cannabis and Alcohol are DEPRESSANTS!!!

I know someone who is as you describe, I think of her as a rigid liberal. Rules about bloody everything.

I know a v judgy hippy and it does annoy me - she can only afford to be an earth mama because her family made a fortune in an environmentally shit business! Not quite an oil tycoon but along those lines.

So you can fuck off lecturing me about breastfeeding and cloth nappies! As it happens I did them both but I didn't shove it down peoples throats as I was too busy working to pay the mortgage to tell you all about it on social media.

That said I also know a really true but pragmatic hippy. I love real genuine people of all types.

Glass houses etc.

Absolutely. I live somewhere that is full of the people you describe. I can't understand their hypocrisy re: peace and love except for people who are not like them. And they believe in freedom of expression as long as you express yourself in exactly the same way that they do. And they have compost loos but go on month long jaunts to Peru so that they get off their faces on ayuhuasca, or however you spell it.

Fuck off.

Yep, got one as a Facebook friend. Total eco-warrior when he's not busy jet setting around the planet racking up his carbon footprint and doing a bit of poverty tourism. Smug and hypocritical.

Haha my step son is a hippy and annoying and self-centred as hell. I'm loving the OP's list. I want to add -
never cleans his flat
has lank, smelly, unwashed hair
has that stale smell of the unwashed

The ones I know are mostly quite 'try hard' and pretentious. I have a lot of sympathy for ideas like sustainable living etc and I did some crunchy parenting like cloth nappies but I just can't commit to hippy life because my bullshit ometer won't stop clanging.