To increasingly find hippies more annoying

[lankylisa]

I grew up with hippy parents and have always ended up befriending slightly hippy alternative people. Now I'm older, I'm finding hippies to be:
-good at bad science
-judgemental of people who dare to want to be materially comfortable
-pious
-immoral when it comes to relationships / using spiritual bs to justify treating people badly
-smug
-dull
-closed
-middle class but scruffy

Does anyone else know what I mean?

Reading this back am horrified that I sound so conservative!

Lost count of the amount of Facebook posts I've seen asking for free room and board/lifts to the airport in exchange for "hugs and rainbows".

Our local swapshop is amusing for this sort of thing. I once saw an advert for a builder and it read something along the lines of 'somebody with a musical soul and a mystical connection to the great unconscious who can help me re-build my kitchen.' I mean, I'd look for somebody with experience and maybe some qualifications but each to their own!

They never want to pay for anything either. They offer to pay in homemade chutney and fair trade chocolate instead.

Don't tar everyone with the same brush, I'm sure they aren't all like that. But those who are, don't associate with them. I also hate weed smokers. Nasty habit.

A pp mentioned that her hippy friend gave clause to her normal friends entertainment and gossip? That's AWFUL. How can people think this is Ok?
I don't think caring about the environment is a bad thing at all.

I knew some who rocked up at playgroup once in their ancient hippie van that belched black fumes, complained about the food not being organic and therefore their precious dc couldn't eat it and then complained that the paints weren't organic and had we considered the implications? (And then went on to lecture us all, but didn't offer to buy said, very expensive paints!)
They then explained they didn't 'believe' in car seats for their dc - toddler and baby, as it was against their human rights to be strapped in - they later got done for speeding .

Weed smokers/addicts are the royal family of correlation and causation gone mad!
Can't bear theories based on paranoia and lazy research.
I'm sure it's where all conspiracy theories arise from.
It's like these people who are stuck in adolescence for ever.

@BertieBotts, your mum is basically my dad. He's an unemployed through sheer laziness architect energy healer, too.

Who are these mfs who give money to these 'energy healers'?
Oh yeah vulnerable anchorles usually divorcees and impressionable younguns

Yeah I kind hear you. I used to be a massive hippie actually but turned. Still have lots of hippie friends and the worst are extremely judgemental. I've occasionally hidden the drinks with sweeteners and toiletries with SLS and parabens before they arrive just because I can't be arsed with the judgines. I hate the way hippie anti science folk call other people 'mainstreamers' in a really sneery way. The anti science rhetoric is just eye rolling. Generally I call out the ridiculous fear of chemikills though.

This thread has really made me laugh.
Saw so many elderly hippies - long grey ponytails and all the rest - skateboarding round the streets in Berkeley (California) where we'd gone for US niece's graduation.
There were so many of them, I came to the conc. that Berkeley is where all the old US hippies go to die.

Who are these mfs who give money to these 'energy healers'?

In my limited experience: predominantly other energy healers & Co.

My dad and his fellow spiritually enlightened beings keep on spending ££££ on one another's services, seminars, pyramid schemes, etc. I suspect at least some chunk of it is a mere money moving operation without anybody actually making financial progress in the long run.

I had a friend who was/is properly hippie. She and her husband were basically brainwashed by a shamanic cult (she recognises this in retrospect). Her husband never did sweet fuck all with the kids or house despite being a student, eventually left her to shack up with someone else and promptly did the same to her. Too spiritual to do the washing up, I think.

Their poor children had terrible terrible cavities because they wouldn't use fluoride - and they kept using weird alternative stuff to try to sort it out. Homeschooled their children until the mum had a breakdown.

She had someone living on her land in a hut made of recycled whatever and one day he said something about not paying tax because of it going towards nuclear warheads. When I said, 'And the NHS of course' he looked at me like I'd grown an extra head.

I was raised by a weed smoking hippy as well. I have zero tolerance for their bullshit too. I agree that most of it comes from their drug induced haze and paranoia. My mother will never grow up. I think that's one reason my parents separated. My father stopped smoking drugs and being self righteous in his early 20's, and at 76 my mother hasn't managed to get there yet.

@LinoleumBlownapart, mine are the same but in reverse.

Are yours single, too, perchance? I see an opportunity ...

Oh there is nothing worse than an 'earth mama' lecturing you on all your parenting choices.

'Ready Brek is so full of chemicals and unnatural additives. I prefer to make my own porridge with steel cut oats, flaxseed and aquafaba.'

Fucking Billy bullshitters. There's nothing wrong with Ready Brek.

My parents best friends are hippies. My main problems with these specific hippies are:

1. The woman likes to discuss politics with my dad, but as he reads a lot of newspapers, statistics, history and societal analysis, he will usually win the discussion, which will then lead to her "helpfully" correcting his accent as he is from another country.

She now has two DILs from other countries and from other races and most of her grand children are "mixed race". Let's hope that her grand children have helped her get rid of her casual racism.

2. Also I have seen them naked a couple of times and would have liked to have been warned first so I could have avoided that.

So it's the worst thing in the world to eat a Nestlé chocolate bar, but somehow smoking an entire bag of weed grown by a trafficked Vietnamese bloke chained to a radiator in a semi in Leeds is perfectly okay.

My DSS avoids this ideological conflict by growing his own!

His partner is a vegan who is into natural everything (yes, DGD has the Amber Necklace of Shame). She was all geared up to have a drug-free water birth at home, but found labour excruciating and ultimately had to have a c-section in hospital. But she's smart, feisty, funny and great company, has had DGD vaxxed and is generally pretty sensible.

The state of their lav though! Because they only use eco-friendly cleaning materials, despite living in a hard water area, their bog is coated in thick limescale that is stained brown. I daren't look down when I go for a wee at their house, it actually makes me feel a bit sick. And I'm one of the least houseproud people I know.

I have some really good friends who are hippies. Lovely, kind, interesting people. But thanks to them I've dipped my toes into some of the parties that go on locally and this thread has captured the people who go to them perfectly. Lots of them run very worthy charities and spend their time jetting all over the world. They do masses of drugs. They're all sleeping with eachother. Their knowledge of science is a bit shit. One sat beside me and told me he was totally different to his family as he wasn't materialistic and didn't value money and didn't think about it. He just bought a house solo for £1.5 million.

They are bonkers. And yes to them all being scruffy as hell despite their wealth.

Be prepared if you go to Goa place is full of hippies telling you how they respect the place unlike other tourists travelers and are at one with spiritual India

They wear a sari/lungi and don’t bother washing to be like locals and blend

TERFousBreakdown , no they both found kindred spirits. Or in my mum's case someone to agree with her ramblings. LakieLady my mum's house reeks of vinegar but it does seem to keep the toilet clean, I bet she uses toilet cleaner when no one's looking!

The ones that make me laugh are the eco warrior earth mothers with six children. Cos, you know, overpopulation isn't a problem at all...

I'm a bit alternative in that I don't use all the advertised, neurosis forming toilet cleaners etc (because I don't like to think of all those anti bactericides foaming and polluting our rivers) .

But our toilets are sparkling clean I use bicarb of soda and Ecover sometimes.

I don’t know any hippies, perhaps there aren’t that many in the home counties!

Dozer Does Forest Row , West Sussex count as Home Counties? There are plenty there.

I went to uni that had a hippy commune nearby. They used to skip for food out of the bins at supermarkets.
They threw great weedy drummy fire juggly parties.
They were quite mainstream sneery though. It all went sour when I found out that they all claimed jobseekers and didn't jobseek because they were in some way superior to having to work. They also went to food banks.
And they mocked me for wanting a job....
That level of hypocrisy was it for me. They would bleed money from the state to sneer at it and mock me for supporting them through my taxes????!!!????
That is not hippy.
That is selfish.

One of my friends is a hippy type. I do like her as she's a very kind and compassionate person. However, she can be quite hypocritical - she has a middle class job (uni lecturer), but thinks of herself as working class, so says she hates people who shop in Waitrose as they are just doing it to show off. However, she shops in expensive healthfood shops and doesn't see that as showing off.
She has a 4 bedroom house and lives on her own, and before she bought the house she always said horrible things about people in big houses being greedy. She says that she needs a big house though as she plans to offer her spare room to a refugee at some point in the unspecified future.