To increasingly find hippies more annoying

[lankylisa]

I grew up with hippy parents and have always ended up befriending slightly hippy alternative people. Now I'm older, I'm finding hippies to be:
-good at bad science
-judgemental of people who dare to want to be materially comfortable
-pious
-immoral when it comes to relationships / using spiritual bs to justify treating people badly
-smug
-dull
-closed
-middle class but scruffy

Does anyone else know what I mean?

Reading this back am horrified that I sound so conservative!

This thread is getting more and more ridiculous!

Wow, hippies using mooncups (as talked about a lot on MN), a view of anyone who feels 'energy' as Narcissists (how many times have MNers given advice along the lines of 'trust your instincts'), plenty of MNers use charity shops and are vegans...

Sure, some are trustafarians, but there are many many more that aren't!
A lot of you on this thread are very very ignorant!

It's not about people using mooncups. It's about a particular kind of person extolling the use of mooncups as you can use the blood to feed plants. Which you know most people will be uncomfortable with and you want them to feel uncomfortable while at the same time trying to make them feel silly for that feeling.

The trust your instincts stuff beloved by MN is usually bollocks IMO but even more so when it's people talking about good or bad energy.

It's a way of them avoiding things or being unpleasant to people while at the same time elevating themselves to being more 'spiritual' or 'aware' than other people so in that instance it is narcissistic - thinking they have superior intelligence, awareness or 'spirituality' in comparison to everyone else.

They're special you see.

That's why cults are always led by narcissists that think (and make their followers believe) that they are spiritually/intellectually/emotionally superior.

And I'm not saying that most hippies are in cults obviously. But cults are always based on the idea that this one group of people know how people should really be living and what they should be thinking and those that disagree are inferior and sleepwalking through life/forming the rat race.

And they are always based on other people having 'bad energy'. Even the non-hippy ones like Scientology, where people that express concern or question the ideology are 'suppressive persons'.

Alternative lifestyles always attract a certain number of narcissists. Because they can't handle 'normal life' where they aren't special or different at all so craft a role where they are. The bonus is they get to look down on the people that didn't notice them till they started to be so 'different'.

I've never seen such a gross generalisation!
How many 'alternative' types do you actually know Loop ?

I agree with loop, these people exist.

I know a shit load of alternative types, most of them I'm related to but I can still laugh at their determination to do everything differently for the sake of it.

I made it quite clear it wasn't a generalisation but about a few people who are seen in 'alternative lifestyles'.

Who exist. As described by many people on this thread.

Your determination Jelly that these people don't exist suggests you know fewer people in these lifestyles as I and others on this thread do if you've never encountered one.

YY Loop. Defo not all "hippy types" and I defo have friends with hippy leanings who are nothing at all like this but there are certain subsets of alternative beliefs which do encourage this cult like mindset. I know the stuff my mum is into is quite like this and it's weird. I didn't really think anything of it but when I came across the definition of a cult and the markers of it, it actually fits spookily well, especially this idea of being somehow better or more enlightened than other people. She keeps going on about being on another planet/in another world and not engaging with this Earth/"real life" stuff which is a bit scary TBH. A lot of the natural health stuff/"big pharma" sceptic also comes under this umbrella. It's creepy because of how pervasive it is, actually - and it's a problem because if you trace these things back you tend to find a person or company selling health foods, supplements or some kind of practice - it IS money behind it, much as people who are into this kind of thing swear blind it's not, sometimes that it's the very opposite! They have a vested interest in making you afraid of non-organic food or of processed food or of anything "mainstream" so that they can sell you their expensive food product or supplement. Whereas I do not actually see this in medicine, or in typical marketing. Bird's Eye want you to buy their processed fish fingers but they're not out to put terror into you at the idea of making your own fish, or being a vegetarian.

FFS every single time this pops up on my newsfeed I misread it as "hippoes".
Every. Single. Time.

"Whilst the rest of the world is dismayed and frustrated by judgemental superior complainers... "

Not sure about your definition of "hippy" here. Using someone else's life, a friend no less, as entertainment to gossip about and revel in what you see as her misfortune is a word worse than hippy, that's for sure. I'd rather spend time with a kind person who creates homemade woven linen organic plants and can't understand why I have not rainforest impact considered my own (I have green ones) than someone who takes out their own frustrations by being cruel about others.

Your toddler can watch tv. They won't die. They might learn something. If someone tells you how to raise your kid, tell them thank you but you've got it. Try to take the same attitude towards their organic soap.

There are narcissists in every walk of life Loop
Where have i denied there are a few in the hippy culture exactly??
The title of this thread is 'To increasingly find hippies more annoying', not 'some hippies', note the difference?

As for my personal knowledge, i grew up in a little place called Stroud in Gloucestershire, lived in many communes as a child, and now live in West Pembrokeshire.. If you know these areas you know i have many alternative friends.
I've also worked a long time in Wholefood shops and my mother is an expert in Permaculture (google it).. Is that good enough?

What is your experience Loop?

Oh and if some mooncup users want to blood straight onto the garden, what business is it of yours to judge? Leave them to it.
Personally i spend money on powdered blood/ bone in a nice little packet..

Oops put

Yes from me
I surrounded by middle class hippies who tell me how it's important just to be happy and not be a wage slave.. They look down their noses at Dh and I who work full time in stressful corporate jobs..

The most irritating thing is that they are able to Swan around doing yoga, etc as they are all funded by rich parents or rich ex husbands and most of them never had a proper job

I wish I could avoid them.all but sadly most of them are family members

The true hippies I know are kind, environmentally aware, gentle people orientated, open minded.

I also know townies and business types and some seem backwards, materialistic, out for themselves.

I think it boils down to personality rather then type of person.

Oh I quite like the hipsters @bringbacksideburns (How can you dis hipsters with a user name like that?

Ha ha! That's a seventies username Mima! I do like a good sideburn and a Zapata moustache

Bold fail there but I've tried to correct it and now can't be arsed.

I sense negative vibes here on this ttread man.
Let's keep it together people!

54 percent hippy. Slightly disappointed I didn't score higher. It'll be my normal house keeping my score down. I am working towards a more sustainable lifestyle and hope then to score higher.

Also disappointed not to have met any of these hippies :(

and can someone please tell me what is wrong with being vegan? Genuine question.

I have known a few like this.sometimes it seems to be a snobbery dressed up as something else i.e. judging ppl for going on package holidays but of course their air travel to Thailand or India is fine cos that was all spiritual and enlightening (or something!) I also had a friend at school whose parents never let her have medicine despite various health issues and also their house was pretty filthy (cats everywhere licking food on countertops etc.)

Ooh 62% hippy. That's about right.

Vegan, liberal etc but normal house, job and whatnot. Well, charity job but a decent paid one!
Parents not hippy in the slightest, Daily Mail reading working class Tories

I think music turned me hippy-ish. I don't have all the negatives OP listed.

I do know a few of those, but I outgrew them and entered the real world!

Bloody hell - if this is the 'new' meaning of "hippy" and how -we- they are viewed, I'll stop describing myself as one, amongst my myriad of self-descriptions; I'll just wait for the next 'new wave' when it's ok again.

Regards
Hippy - exHippy - Hippy Waitin
Age 55

cheesy theres nothing wrong with being a vegan. Theres a lot wrong with being a pius preachy vegan and verbally attacking people who live differently.

Old school hippies are great. Love the free love peace and love, environmental odd commune type thing. Its modern hippyism (i know thats not a word.)

Also has anyone seen how expensive their clothes are?!

CheeseyToast

I'm vegan (it was an accident) and it's surprisingly good. Unless you are really attached to cheese on toast. I found meat was making me sick so phased it out without realising, then it started really making me sick as I wasn't used to it. I was practically vegan other than philadelphia light and skimmed milk, but I swapped to coconut milk which is freaking delicious and that was me! I couldn't believe how much energy I had, three hours a day in the gym, every day. It's about eating more good things though, not cutting out everything and missing nutrition.

I don't cook vegan things, but I didn't really cook anyway. Some people do but I can't be assed lol:) Mostly I stuff my face all the live long day with things that taste like sunshine. It's a health choice for me, it works for my body, that's all. I'm not a fan of preachy in any direction really!

The smoothies are the best bit. Oh and every so often you can go to a yoga class, maybe even touch your toes and then feel like you run the freaking world! Definitely throw in the smoothies though. We started with a £20 smoothie maker from Sainsburys and then lived on a pretty much liquid diet for a fortnight. Bananas, whatever milk you like, ice and go to town on fruit.

I don't think this alone makes me a hippy (I don't score highly on the OP list at all, although I would completely call myself a hippy!), but it is a yummy way to be.

Lulu I never eat cheese on toast haha, a more accurate description would be compostfreak.

Thanks for the tips, I'll keep moving towards the vegan goal (though I'm not sure I could ever spend 3 hrs in a gym)

Jelly - Totnes. Enough said

Had a very weird experience there in the '80s Loop
Totnes is similar to Stroud, but very very different to West Wales! .. No-one here to preach to, as everyones too busy getting on with it, its hard graft living this rural, nothing like in a big town!

Very silly thread. You couldn't get away with these kinds of sweeping generalisations about other sub cultures if indeed 'hippies' are even a sub culture.