To increasingly find hippies more annoying

[lankylisa]

I grew up with hippy parents and have always ended up befriending slightly hippy alternative people. Now I'm older, I'm finding hippies to be:
-good at bad science
-judgemental of people who dare to want to be materially comfortable
-pious
-immoral when it comes to relationships / using spiritual bs to justify treating people badly
-smug
-dull
-closed
-middle class but scruffy

Does anyone else know what I mean?

Reading this back am horrified that I sound so conservative!

Rigid liberals makes sense. Also have really noticed that the hippy thing is usually much less freeing for women than men. And I worry if kids are encouraged to think that thinking about future jobs doesn’t matter because actually that’s just cutting off their personal choices for the future. Adults can act on those views if they hold them, that’s their adult choice. Environmental issues are really important though and I respect that and raising awareness around that where hippy culture has contributed.

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I detest the phenomenon of the middle class hippy which is most of them. My MIL is one and moves in those ‘oh so alternative’ circles. They always seem to have tons of money so that they never have to work whilst pretending they live a hard frugal eco lifestyle of never washing or having their kid vaccinated. And they LOVE telling everyone about it and how superior it makes them. But their morals seem to be dropped quickly when they want the latests iPhone, to drive their diesel cars or go to bhuddist retreats on planes. Very annoying people.

One of my brother and his evil wife were hippies, they expected my late father to pay for them (he was not wealthy), they were negligent in the upbringing of the 2 children - house filthy, children unwashed, as were their clothes and they smelled of cigarette smoke. They did not make them do homework etc. No one could criticise them however. Drugs were involved.

Poor neglected kids now pretty unemployable and brother banged up for drugs.

Great list OP! I have many hippy friends, but as pp do take them with a pinch of salt, as I am sure they do me.

May I add

Constant proclamation of being a free and independent spirit, whilst sporting hippy uniform of neon pink/turquoise hair, rainbow tie dyed clothes and Army boots.

Love of the “Mother”, disdain for “chemicals” unless they are useful ones like those in hair dye, or diesel for ancient vans.

49% hippy...

I have been mistaken for a hippy and tbh don't mind being seen as one. Generally shop sustainably, attempt to wear natural fibers - nettle and bamboo still aren't that common but am happy to wear cellulose and wool.
But I'm with those who say peer review or you're not coming in! Having had DS1 get measels I have very little time for anti-vaxxers. Also the amount of judgement I got for being pro-nuclear from the late 90's and thinking that capitalism isn't inherently evil if done well (business schools on the other hand....).
I compost, use cloth nappies BUT you're right about hypocracy. Having said that I have hippy friends who home educate but work part time. I know another who is setting up an urban farm/vegetable delivery service. I don't know anyone now who smokes pot - they are all too busy.

Mind you I do know someone who is a very nice person but really has no idea of the real world. She runs an energy healing business but is one of those scammy franchises and has yet to have made a profit. She comes from a very rich family so I don't think she's every had to have a real job.
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Grandmaswagbag I think I love you.

Yes know whT you mean.
My hippy friends are anti vax, anti sleep routines/ telling off etc , vegetarian vegan etc and lecture about air miles, environment etc but are perfectly happy in taking an array of drugs of a weekend which are no doubt pretty unethical in their production and also have 4x4s and second Homes !
My parents are a bit hippyish and have made a big deal about downsizing but now seem to have a million excuses to not put their big detached house on the market now they're actually looking at smaller houses

I grew up with very alternative parents but I don't recognise the 'middle class and loaded' picture that is being described on here. Most of my parents alternative friends were from poor/working class backgrounds and had working class jobs. There were lots of cleaners, waiting on staff, mechanics, farm hands etc who worked and earned enough to pay the bills and feed their kids and feed their alcohol/weed habits. There were occasionally a couple of wealthy artist types who would affiliate themselves with the group for a year or two, but generally it didn't last long, probably because the group my parents belonged to were not ambitious or bothered about status and happy not to change the world, and the middle class types got bored of the impulsive and unambitious lifestyle.

A lot of them are now old and frail people with no working memory as their brains are fried from a lifetime of drug consumption. A couple of them are dead due to heroin overdose or sclerosis of the liver, and many have chronic depression.

My SIL is a hypocritical hippy (hippie- critical?) Would bang on about cruelty to animals whilst puffing on a joint with her asthmatic child sitting on her lap. Mocks her brother and me for being "wage slaves" because she gets joy and fulfilment spending her days doing arts and crafts and being a free spirit while cheerfully collecting benefits funded from the taxes of aforementioned despised wage slaves

And yes she did have wealthy parents and went to boarding school, funny that.

Not really a hippie but someone i knew from uni styles himself as an eco warrior, has a website/blog all about the terrible destruction of the rainforests etc. Jets off long haul a couple of times a year to view said terrible destruction first hand. Oh the irony!

Blimey! So much irritation at people different from yourselves who complain about you living in a different manner to them.

I suspect I don't know any of those hippies. I know much nicer ones who just get on with it and don't tell me what to do.

However I am not a hippy . I am too wedded to convenience and hot water on tap.

I suspect I count as middle class and scruffy and would hate to live in a place where that was such a problem that people classed it as a 'type' worthy of classification.

BTW is it acceptable to care about fair trade and then grow your own weed? Just wondering.

I dont mind hippies (as long as they wash) but the anti vaccination brigade and those that are so damn liberal they put their children in danger make me very angry.

Oh this is totally me and I feel so guilty about it at times.

My mum is an energy healer who believes in all kinds of crap like thoughts become things, some mythical past event called the split and that everything leads back to energy to the point you can't have a normal conversation with her. She's constantly struggling for money but believes that if she just trusts the universe more will magically appear, which it usually does, but only enough to sustain her for a short time and then she's struggling again and this cycle has gone on for decades, but she hasn't noticed, nor does she have any understanding of the phrase long term plan because that is not "being in this now moment". It's sad really. She cycles through periods of mania and deep depression and I really worry about her mental health actually but she won't dream of seeking help because medicine is not balancing and also she went on antidepressants once in 1994 and had a bad experience so all antidepressants must be bad.

My dad is a conspiracy theorist who smokes too much weed and is recently so convinced that the world is ending that he has joined a cult where they all call each other brother and discuss their plans for what they will do when the time comes in terms of who's going to build, hunt, recreate electronics, etc.

I do love a lot of aspects of my hippie friends but I definitely see what the OP is saying and I've absolutely become more intolerant of certain aspects as I've got older.

So it's the worst thing in the world to eat a Nestlé chocolate bar, but somehow smoking an entire bag of weed grown by a trafficked Vietnamese bloke chained to a radiator in a semi in Leeds is perfectly okay.

^this

My best friend when I was having kids and living abroad was a hippy, but to be fair she was older than me and had grown up in California in the 60's. So she was a proper flower child.
So back in the late 80's she was my parenting role model as I had no family around.
She was a breasfeeding, babywearing, natural food cooking, baby led weaning, attachment parenting, yoga practising, Chakra cleaning, scientist. She was/is a wonderful non judgmental woman and true hippy. She did all sort of other hippy type stuff too. To long to list.
The hippy types others here seems to describe don't feel like hippies to me, just scruffy hippy wannbes.

Wasn't Steve jobs a hippie

All the ones I used to knock around with are dead now, they died in their 20s and 30s from various different things.

They ,we, are all different. ex dil , goes on and on about her 'pranic' existence (not eating basically) . After the course she went on to learn how 'not to eat.' I looked askance at her. She said "well the leaves on the trees don't eat" !!!!!!!!!!

She wonders why she lacks energy when she just eats fruit at night. (i've never noticed the leaves eating fruit!!!!) "The sun will give her the energy" she lives In England ffs!!!!

She goes on and on about the environment but she NEEDS and puts herself in debt for a car! In London!

Some fabulous descriptions of the labour and liberal party politicians on here :)

Most 'true' hippies will be in their 70's now, a lot approaching their 80's.

Doesn't time fly by.....

Define 'hippy'

IMO there's 2 camps -

1 The hippy who will brag about how they're spending so much time and money saving the environment, will spend a fortune on clothing that they only wear once (at Glasters dahling) and forget to mention that they're driving a diesel 4x4 to travel to their retreats and posh festivals. Oh and obviously is vegan and wears the t-shirt to prove it.

2 The hippy who gets on with being environmentally aware, while keeping their own carbon footprint minimal, enjoys nothing more than being in a quiet woods or a small festival with like minded people and just lets everyone else get on with the madness.

20% hippy

Oh yes. The ancient cars. I get the sneery comments from them about the 'not-handmade-by-locals-from-beeswax-and-leaves-and-puddle-water-handwash' yet they pitch up in one of their two old bangers belching black fumes

ive met a few ex class A drug users and some sound exactly the same as these

i met one whowas now an " artist" and didnt believe he should work but mummy and daddy were loaded so their was no need

he was so full on about others,that they should not drink etc but found it hard to argue when i pointed out he had veins like Charring cross station and his lifestyle for the last 15yrs was far from perfect

there are many similarities between ex users and hippys as to what they believe