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To think it’s just so unfair? *MNHQ trigger warning*

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WoodysRoundup · 23/04/2018 14:27

I’m basically on suspension from work whilst there’s an investigation as I was raped by a colleague and informed the managers.

But I’m on a zero hour contract with no time line of how long this will last, whether we’ll both be let go, or anything. I’m not working so I can’t get paid and I’m so frustrated that I can’t do my job and earn money like I’m the one in the wrong.

I’m sorry everyone I just needed to rant

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Highhorse1981 · 24/04/2018 11:16

So what’s your point about then withdrawing from the process?!

Tartanscarf · 24/04/2018 11:16

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Bluntness100 · 24/04/2018 11:18

The op has stated repeatedly she will not report to the police. There is no point derailing the thread requesting her to.

However I suspect the employer already has contacted them or sought legal advice. If this was two of my employees We would call seek legal advice and Inform the police. One employee is claiming rape out side working hours, the other employee is claiming consensual sex. I think the lawyers and police will say in the absence of any report of a crime or evidence the employer cannot fire the man based on no more than the ops word.

However as said, as these are zero hour contracts they may just let both go, or as the op has already handed her notice in they may keep him on As they have no legal grounds reason to dismiss other than she has made an unsubstantiated allegation against him.

TatianaLarina · 24/04/2018 11:35

I’m guessing Tartan as you didn’t elaborate.

TatianaLarina · 24/04/2018 11:35

So what’s your point about then withdrawing from the process?!

That OP can withdraw at any time if she find the process distressing and that she is not obliged to go to court.

Tartanscarf · 24/04/2018 11:39

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TatianaLarina · 24/04/2018 11:42

As above.

Tartanscarf · 24/04/2018 11:43

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TatianaLarina · 24/04/2018 11:49

It’s technically possible, but if she withdrew at investigation stage, the likelihood of the police having enough evidence to refer to CPS and the CPS referring to court without her testimony, is minute.

Tartanscarf · 24/04/2018 11:51

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TatianaLarina · 24/04/2018 11:57

By which I meant she can withdraw from the process before it gets that far.

I made the same point as my post at 11.49 at 11.02

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TatianaLarina · 24/04/2018 12:07

I can’t tell whether I am genuinely being unclear or whether you’re misinterpreting it tbh.

I certainly agree with getting proper legal advice, and also proper emotional support from a SARC or Rape Crisis.

Highhorse1981 · 24/04/2018 12:32

TatianaLarina

You’re unclear

But you’re not a lawyer and not involved in legal industry in any shape or form, are you?

Bluntness100 · 24/04/2018 12:51

I think everyone can agree that going to the police with no intention of following it through, just to keep your job and have it on file is morally wrong.

The op has already resigned, she is suspended but in her two week notice period. Ultimately the employer needs to protect themselves as well as their employees, and that is both employees here. A refusal to go to the police leaves their hands tied, and her resignation ultimately means they don't have to actually find anything other than inconclusive. In a few days she will have left and it goes away.

This is a question of consent. The employer is and cannot be the arbitrator here.

TatianaLarina · 24/04/2018 12:55

Nope, nor have I ever claimed to be, but I’ve been through the process myself, I’ve experienced it first hand.

Tartanscarf · 24/04/2018 13:00

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TatianaLarina · 24/04/2018 13:03

No-one has suggested that OP should report it just to keep her job that was HighHorse’s bizarre idea.

It’s dangerous and irresponsible to imply that it’s wrong to report rape to the police with no intention of going to court.

It will deter people from reporting the crime at all.

If people can face reporting the crime, it’s important they do on many levels.

TatianaLarina · 24/04/2018 13:04

That was to Bluntness^^

Bluntness100 · 24/04/2018 13:08

I don't think anyone is disputing she should report it. Her refusal to do so is what's causing her thr follow on issues. I'm just not sure anyone agrees with you it should be reported with no intent to then follow through and comply with either the police or cps.

Tartanscarf · 24/04/2018 13:10

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TatianaLarina · 24/04/2018 13:14

Tartan I’m looking at it from the POV of having been a complianant and been through system, which is perfectly valid. I have also worked for a rape charity and seen other people do the same.

Lawyers don’t have experience of being a complainant (unless they’ve been raped themselves).

Tartanscarf · 24/04/2018 13:15

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TatianaLarina · 24/04/2018 13:18

I'm just not sure anyone agrees with you it should be reported with no intent to then follow through and comply with either the police or cps

Never suggested she doesn’t comply with the police. But the reality for many women who report sex offences or domestic abuse is that they do not want to go to court. Are you really suggesting that those people simply do not report the crime?

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